To be fair, if I was a powerful or important person, and I found out this guy can get me anything, and didn’t know he was a pedophile, I’d want to network too. (Also to be fair, his face would scare me away too).
What do you think the odds are that these Paleontologists are kiddie diddlers?
Well, it’s also possible that all of these other people have faith in the system that Epstein was fully rehabilitated by going to jail 12 hours a day for a few months.
In the same way that its also possible that monkeys will fly out of my butt and deliver me a million dollars.
Here’s the cool thing, I don’t give a single fuck why you were communicating with the guy. If you had a relationship with him, you get thrown in the wood chipper. After every single person is thrown in, we can sort through the pile of viscera and determine guilt.
We CANNOT allow these people to remain in the position of power they are in for the duration of the obviously EXTENSIVE investigation that is needed.
Ok, that is exactly what I’m concerned of. I suspect that there are people on the list that had nothing to do with kiddy diddling, and that this might be how he got power over them in the first place.
We might have ended up in a shitty world, solely due to that one fucker.
It makes sense though, that’s my attitude to billionaires in general. 3000 people are simply…NOTHING compared to say, a million innocent people killed in Gaza because they exist, so you have a point there.
As much as I hate to create a world where anyone could be sacrificed, things have passed the godzilla threshold.
Ah yes, every time it’s billionaires and their people that are facing consequences all of a sudden we worry about the innocent being convicted, even as we know they aren’t innocent. They always play us, after conviction they will slip all of this talk about the carceral system not being rehabilitative, long enough to help give the judge they pay off cause to give them a lighter sentence.
Enough. These people were not just abusing girls and everything else, they were doing it to blackmail people to give them license to abuse others, abuses that are ongoing, and worse every day. Not problems confined to gaza and the west bank and iran either, it’s coming home.
There is nothing that can stop our trajectory into the abyss, except this scandal. It’s they key to laying waste to the corrupt oligarchy leading us to ruin, and on the cusp of killing our republic in all but name and replacing it with an unthinkable kakistocracy.
The act making a billion dollars alone requires acts that deserve a guillotine. I’d argue anyone actively trying to become a billionaire should be lined up for the wood chipper.
AFAIK most billionaires become so by birth, even if the most prominent are the ones who made their fortune through their own exploits (though I assume most of those were already wealthy by birth).
Becoming a billionaire by birth isn’t evil in itself, it’s the act of staying a billionaire. Though rare, there are examples of people born into considerable wealth who give most of it away to charity.
Are we gonna ignore the exploitation it took for you to have 900 million? 800? 500?.. nobody has an exact cutoff, but at some point an individual has effectively won capitalism, and that point is looooong before you reach 1 billion.
I’m going to be honest, it’s power, not wealth at that point.
I would hold onto at least some of it, to try and spread my own ideology.
Which is solar punk.
But I would probably just hand it to some green investment firm, brush aside the ethics of funding such businesses, and focus on R&D on sustainable living, and greenifying neighborhoods. Ironically, my end goal even now, is to undermine my own power.
Humanity goes AWOL and becomes uncontrollable is my endgoal.
If the communication was prior to Epstein’s conviction I might be inclined to provide some leeway – all else being equal. If the communication was after Epstein’s conviction they should be very firm.
Judges and juries are for dolling out legal punishment, such as prison time. Private organizations run by ethcal adults can judge for themselves the very obvious connections and guilt or innocence of people they choose to hire or associate with (or not associate with).
Unfortunately that is true. This is why it is even MORE important for private individuals and organizations to do what they can with the limited nongovernmental power they have.
Judges and juries are for establishing just action. If we care about just action then we use a judge and jury. It is inconvenient and imperfect, but it’s better than trusting individuals. That’s why we do it. Not because it’s the governmenty thing to do
Do you believe in free association? Do you think people should be forced to associate with people they do not want to? Suppose someone got off legally due to a technicality but anyone paying attention with common sense knew that person was guilty? Should I be forced to associate with such a person? Suppose one of those people applies for a job as science teacher for a middle school; should that middle school be forced to hire such a person?
If you were rich you’d love to have been one of those associates it seems. It’s the only explanation for the way you defend them. The absolute dissonance required to be like, “yeah he was is sex trafficking minors, but i wonder if he can also throw me a good normal party on his island that is totally normal” is asinine… These people don’t need your defense. Why are you even bothering?
To be fair, if I was a powerful or important person, and I found out this guy can get me anything, and didn’t know he was a pedophile, I’d want to network too. (Also to be fair, his face would scare me away too).
What do you think the odds are that these Paleontologists are kiddie diddlers?
Yeah no pity there.
Post 2008 it was public knowledge JE was a pedophile
As much as any other profession
Well, it’s also possible that all of these other people have faith in the system that Epstein was fully rehabilitated by going to jail 12 hours a day for a few months.
In the same way that its also possible that monkeys will fly out of my butt and deliver me a million dollars.
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Hey! I didn’t know it was after the conviction.
Why not? It’s in the post. Or did you not actually read before commenting?
I forget things really fast, it’s not that I’m truly dumb.
I could probably do great things…if I didn’t suffer from some sort of amnesia or whatever the fuck this horrible, horrible thing is.
Here’s the cool thing, I don’t give a single fuck why you were communicating with the guy. If you had a relationship with him, you get thrown in the wood chipper. After every single person is thrown in, we can sort through the pile of viscera and determine guilt.
We CANNOT allow these people to remain in the position of power they are in for the duration of the obviously EXTENSIVE investigation that is needed.
Ok, that is exactly what I’m concerned of. I suspect that there are people on the list that had nothing to do with kiddy diddling, and that this might be how he got power over them in the first place.
We might have ended up in a shitty world, solely due to that one fucker.
It makes sense though, that’s my attitude to billionaires in general. 3000 people are simply…NOTHING compared to say, a million innocent people killed in Gaza because they exist, so you have a point there.
As much as I hate to create a world where anyone could be sacrificed, things have passed the godzilla threshold.
we should track down every barista who ever sold him coffee and throw them in the woodchipper too!!!
We should track down whoever is making our frogs have tits!
Alex Jones dumping penis pills in the local lake is what caused big titted frogs
Ah yes, every time it’s billionaires and their people that are facing consequences all of a sudden we worry about the innocent being convicted, even as we know they aren’t innocent. They always play us, after conviction they will slip all of this talk about the carceral system not being rehabilitative, long enough to help give the judge they pay off cause to give them a lighter sentence.
Enough. These people were not just abusing girls and everything else, they were doing it to blackmail people to give them license to abuse others, abuses that are ongoing, and worse every day. Not problems confined to gaza and the west bank and iran either, it’s coming home.
There is nothing that can stop our trajectory into the abyss, except this scandal. It’s they key to laying waste to the corrupt oligarchy leading us to ruin, and on the cusp of killing our republic in all but name and replacing it with an unthinkable kakistocracy.
Yeah, I’m willing to sacrifice some billionaires for the greater good, without hesitation.
Sadly, not in the position to do so effectively.
There are no innocent billionaires anyway.
Wait, if I were to become a billionaire, would I get at least 30 days to give up wealth, or would I be considered evil instantly?
The act making a billion dollars alone requires acts that deserve a guillotine. I’d argue anyone actively trying to become a billionaire should be lined up for the wood chipper.
AFAIK most billionaires become so by birth, even if the most prominent are the ones who made their fortune through their own exploits (though I assume most of those were already wealthy by birth).
Becoming a billionaire by birth isn’t evil in itself, it’s the act of staying a billionaire. Though rare, there are examples of people born into considerable wealth who give most of it away to charity.
I’ll make an exception for regular people who hit the big lotteries. That’s probably the only ethical way.
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Are we gonna ignore the exploitation it took for you to have 900 million? 800? 500?.. nobody has an exact cutoff, but at some point an individual has effectively won capitalism, and that point is looooong before you reach 1 billion.
What if I get it by divorcing a billionaire?
Now, I have all this money.
I’m going to be honest, it’s power, not wealth at that point.
I would hold onto at least some of it, to try and spread my own ideology.
Which is solar punk.
But I would probably just hand it to some green investment firm, brush aside the ethics of funding such businesses, and focus on R&D on sustainable living, and greenifying neighborhoods. Ironically, my end goal even now, is to undermine my own power.
Humanity goes AWOL and becomes uncontrollable is my endgoal.
She is a witch. Buying potatoes from her is the same as congress with the devil.
-Elder Edict, ~1350
Did this witch have sole control over more wealth and personel than entire nation states? Because if not, it’s a nonsense sentence
Your logical fallacy is: false equivalence.
I think it’s pretty dead on.
Which is why we know you’re a fucked up person.
of course, this witch is a known and convicted child rapist and trafficker, dead on I say, dead on
Agreed. And on the face of it, this paleontological organization is being unjust. Engaging in justice theater even.
If the communication was prior to Epstein’s conviction I might be inclined to provide some leeway – all else being equal. If the communication was after Epstein’s conviction they should be very firm.
So “a communication” constitutes such strong evidence for conviction that we need neither judge nor jury? Interesting.
Judges and juries are for dolling out legal punishment, such as prison time. Private organizations run by ethcal adults can judge for themselves the very obvious connections and guilt or innocence of people they choose to hire or associate with (or not associate with).
No one is facing any consequence from judges and juries in the US.
Unfortunately that is true. This is why it is even MORE important for private individuals and organizations to do what they can with the limited nongovernmental power they have.
Judges and juries are for establishing just action. If we care about just action then we use a judge and jury. It is inconvenient and imperfect, but it’s better than trusting individuals. That’s why we do it. Not because it’s the governmenty thing to do
“It’s better than trusting individuals”
What the fuck do you think judges and juries are?
Do you believe in free association? Do you think people should be forced to associate with people they do not want to? Suppose someone got off legally due to a technicality but anyone paying attention with common sense knew that person was guilty? Should I be forced to associate with such a person? Suppose one of those people applies for a job as science teacher for a middle school; should that middle school be forced to hire such a person?
sounds like you’re siding with the confirmed child abusers, in which case justice would be two bullets in the back of your head
Actually I’m siding with people who communicated with confirmed child abusers.
Get a grip.
If you were rich you’d love to have been one of those associates it seems. It’s the only explanation for the way you defend them. The absolute dissonance required to be like, “yeah he was is sex trafficking minors, but i wonder if he can also throw me a good normal party on his island that is totally normal” is asinine… These people don’t need your defense. Why are you even bothering?
wood chipper it is