It’s much better here! It’s nice and cozy, kinda like Reddit circa 15 years ago.

For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world and if you’re a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch, if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz, !biology@mander.xyzand !astronomy@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo there’s always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz

You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

If you want to explore the world of PC Gaming on Linux check !linux_gaming@lemmy.world or for more general Linux !linux@programming.dev and we even have a Linux meme comm at !linuxmemes@lemmy.world (we like Linux around here lmao)

For news !world@lemmy.world is excellent and for US focused news !news@lemmy.world and !usa@midwest.social

Want to ensure your privacy in this crazy world? Checkout !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

And of course, the best for last, the best comm on the Lemmy-verse, !bikinibottomtwitter@lemmy.world !!! Just make sure to buy a krabby patty!

We’re not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies, but here they’re mostly on what’s known as the Tankie Triad: lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. For the most part, grad and hex are widely defederated from (Users and content of those instances won’t be “synced” and you won’t see them) and you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you’d rather just not deal with them. .ml tends to be more subtle opting for censorship of dissent before things get crazy on their threads and allowing certain propaganda to flourish (If you wish to see documentation of it, checkout !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”

Obligatory, fuck Spez

  • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
    187·
    5 days ago

    Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”

    Saying it again to everyone in the back. The modlog is a great feature. Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.

    • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      31·
      5 days ago

      Couldn’t an instance admin just disable modlogs or spoof them, though

      • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        706·
        5 days ago

        Yes, but the backlash would be undoubtedly intense, everyone here loves the modlog (well probably not the trolls/tankies LMFAO)

          • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
            101·
            5 days ago

            Isn’t the whole thing about public and harsh punishments in authoritarian societies to keep everyone in check?

            • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
              6·
              4 days ago

              its also to hide and shield your atrocities, punishments from the public, hence they dont know whats going on so its easy to claim any story you made up.

          • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
            88·
            5 days ago

            the tankies/MLs are the biggest downside of lemmy, they prefer insults to discussion and have a very stalinist approach to moderation/administration. they are the spez of lemmy

            oh and they spread russian propaganda like jolly traitors

            authoritarians have always been the same

            • Microw@lemm.eeEnglish
              81·
              4 days ago

              Keep in mind that not everyone on ml or everyone with leftist leanings is a tankie. Yes, there are a lot of tankies there, but ML is a general purpose instance and some longstanding lemmy users simply have their accounts there

              • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
                66·
                4 days ago

                i was referring to the fundamentalists, wannabe revolutionaries and myopic protesters

                if you have a main account on .ml to bait MLs then fine, but it might be time to make an account elsewhere. all the MLs that want to troll the rest of lemmy have done the same so they don’t bring the instance into further disrepute

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        25·
        5 days ago

        For their own instance, sure.

        But it won’t alter the modlogs of other Instances, which also have a copy if the community is federated to them.

      • ninthant@lemmy.caEnglish
        24·
        5 days ago

        Because of federation the lock-in is much lower and we could move to a new instance due to a rogue admin.

    • tetris11@lemmy.mlEnglish
      13·
      5 days ago

      Eh, you say that.

      Image of post
      • The post title was something like “What is your ideal political system”

      (I’ve since deleted my comment just in case I doxxed myself elsewhere)

      • When I click on the link for that post it says the post was deleted.
      • When I look at the ModLog for AskLemmy@lemmy.world, there’s nothing there in that time period
      Image of modlog

      So either there’s some funny shenanigans going on at lemmy.world, or more likely maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances, or…?

      • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
        10·
        5 days ago

        The main thing you need to know the username of the OP who posted it. Chances are they were banned, had their account deleted or deleted the post themselves. The comments in the post is collateral damage in deleted/removed posts. It has happened to me and it does feel bad a bit since comments of deleted posts and children of deleted comments do not appear in the modlog. The idea though, is that the main OP who has been actioned against has recourse. The process certainly can be improved but its still several steps above Reddit in transparency.

      • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        8·
        5 days ago

        maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances

        The modlog is vulnerable to the same federation issues that all Lemmy content can suffer from.

        Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases

        But also, like all federated content, you won’t see modlog entries on your Instances modlog if they’ve defederated from an instance. So you won’t see hex/grad modlog entries on .world but you can from .ee for example

        • Muehe@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          5 days ago

          Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases

          I believe this depends on what community it happens on. If the community is on ml, then ml moderation actions will be copied by world (or any other instance showing that community), but if it happens on a world community then ml moderation actions stay on ml.

        • tetris11@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          5 days ago

          Do you see a different modlog for asklemmy@lemmy.world as I’m seeing in that screenshot then?

          • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            3·
            5 days ago

            I checked 2 other instance modlog’s, and didn’t see them there.

            I did notice “*Permanently Deleted*” for its post title, which is usually indicative of a total post purge (Deletes all content from a post, pictures, comments everything. Normally, an uploaded picture can hang around on an instance directly accessible by its image url), but it’s supposed to be reserved for really bad shit (read: illegal) you don’t want hanging around in an instances DBs

            That being said, even permanently deleted/purged stuff generally does show on the modlog, at least an entry that just says Permanently Deleted, so that is a bit concerning.

            Id suggest putting together your evidence into a post for !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com maybe you can catch the attention of another instance admin, maybe of db0 themself and they can look into it more (admins of other instances have special visibility into some things)

            Edit:

            I just realized you participated in an asklemmy post, not made one yourself, I was searching incorrectly lol

            Yea there are a number of other things that can happen in that case like blaze said, OP deleted the post, deleted their account, was caught posting really bad shit and their account was wholly purged etc

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      121·
      5 days ago

      Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.

      That actually isn’t true, they can disappear it for normal users. I’ve had things disappear at LW and when I called it out, the shitty admin dude went after me. Also, if you delete a thread, it disappears. That’s the one thing the bad place did correct up until I left, it might be different now though. They kept the threads up even if they shut down the thread. Now, it just disappears.

      • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        5 days ago

        There are instances where deleting content permanently is a good feature, like for illegal content and spammers.

        A way to list what was disappeared entirely and the reason for it would be good for transparency. Like if a comment/thread is deleted for illegal images just having a note in the modlog that it was deleted for illegal content would be good even though the images won’t show. .

        Spammers might still clog up the modlog though, but there could probably be a way to consolidate them or something.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          5·
          5 days ago

          I agree. I think the bad place had a warning page if it was deleted for violent or abusive content. Otherwise, it stayed up. Again, it might be different now though, I haven’t been there in years now.