Just a little bit of levity.

Please, men and manchildren both, remember which group this is and follow the rules.

    • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 days ago

      I mean honestly I think the sex bot demographic is more… awkward? than nasty

      Like, to me, the nasty creepy men are the ones harrasing and sexually assaulting women. I think for the most part anyone buying a sex bot is more just sad, lonely, and struggling socially. Like there can certainly be some overlap between the two but I think for the most part if someone’s bought a sex bot they’re really just fulfilling their sexual need in a different way, it might be weird but I don’t think it’s inherently bad.

      Idk, I had (well really still have) a ton of anxiety and… trauma? (I guess) around women and being seen as a predator and ended up discovering dildos and began to have a satisfying solo sex life, before I realized that I was attracted to men and also before I started transitioning. I dunno, I guess I don’t see how someone using a sex bot is all that different from a fuck machine and if someone with issues can still find a way to be satisfied, more power to them. Idk maybe I should be hating myself more but I’m also not sure that’s possible

      Sorry I know this isn’t really a serious discussion thread but it got me thinking

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        When you see the parasocial relationships many owners of those “Realdolls” and their clones build with their, and I can’t stress this enough, lumps of vinyl, silicone, and metal struts, it goes a little bit past awkward and well into troubling. They build up an epic fantasy life of how their “girlfriend” (or for the wealthier in plural) is the bestest ever woman who does everything a woman is supposed to do and in the process propagate the worst aspects of toxic masculinity and patriarchy.

        You will not be able to convince me this doesn’t bleed over into their daily interactions with actual women.

        And this is with inanimate lumps of plastics and rubbers that have to be posed manually, dressed and undressed manually, which have no actual autonomy of their own. What do you think the impact will be if these are now given the ability to move on their own and actually communicate? People are getting delusional with just frickin’ CHAT BOTS right now, to the point of “marrying” them and even “having children” together. Take that toxic insanity and mix it with the toxic insanity of so-called Realdolls and you’re just begging for trouble.

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          If you wouldn’t mind, I’d like to hear more on your thoughts of how a fantasy relationship might bleed over into interactions with real women. Is it a “they fantasize about having a partner and treating her like shit, so they’ll start treating real women like shit” kinda deal? What might an interaction affected someone’s fantasy relationship be like (like, can you make up an example for me)? Sorry I hope this doesn’t come across as “I’m trying to pick apart what you’re saying”, you have a much different view on things than I do and I’d like to understand

          With people being delusional and marrying chatbots etc, I’m not saying that it’s not a problem, just not something to hate the people over.

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            If you wouldn’t mind, I’d like to hear more on your thoughts of how a fantasy relationship might bleed over into interactions with real women.

            Well there’s formal studies done on the impact of a parallel field of toxic masculinity on male/female relationships: porn. In that case it’s men seeing purely artificial, purely physical relationships done for prurient interest and titillation on the screen and then assuming that what they see portrayed is real and how sex is actually performed by people. They come out of it thinking:

            • all women enjoy anal sex
            • all women enjoy violence like slaps across the face or buttocks
            • all women enjoy being choked while having violently vigorous intercourse
            • … this list could go on for a very long time

            This is then imported into their sexual relationships with women and it is the women who are blamed if, say, they’re like me and:

            • don’t enjoy anal sex
            • don’t enjoy slaps, et al
            • don’t enjoy erotic asphyxiation
            • … and even more confusing to these badly-trained people sometimes enjoy some of the things they don’t always enjoy in small doses

            So, we go to the Realdoll owners.

            First, let’s be real here. The people who have Realdolls consume porn. Likely a whole lot of it. And likely, over time, ever more extreme versions of it. And they have this parasocial relationship with an inanimate “woman” who “enjoys” everything they see on the porn and get excited by.

            And they’re not going to be getting any negative feedback like “get that thing away from my ass!” or whatever.

            So let’s go back and look at the paper-thin “plots” most porn has. Women exist entirely as sexual objects. Women in the workplace? They want their asses smacked and their boobs latched onto like lampreys. They want to be sexually reamed in every orifice in every position. And when they do this with their parasocial “girlfriend”, “she” never objects either. You think this isn’t going to taint relationships with female colleagues? Even if they’re not quite courageous enough to actually do any of that (and I guarantee you anybody who’s worked in HR for mid- to large-sized companies has a massive file of people who did have that courage), this reduction of women to a collection of acquiescent orifices that they want repeatedly stuffed in every uncomfortable position and manner possible is absolutely going to colour how they interact with women. Dismissive. Arrogant. Infantalizing. Aggressive. Even threatening.

            And if the women object, it’s “those bitches” to blame, not a life of being so afraid of “those bitches” they got a plastic “bitch” to slap around instead.

            Now add to this already alarmingly toxic stew the sheer delusional lunacy of an LLMbecile that’s been trained to be just like those women in the overwhelming proportion of porn videos. That can move by itself and express that it wants to be that “perfect woman” that “those frigid bitches at the office” won’t be like.

            I think this will be a complete disaster and a literal danger to women in the workplace and, as this spreads, women in society in general.

            With people being delusional and marrying chatbots etc, I’m not saying that it’s not a problem, just not something to hate the people over.

            I don’t think you understand. I don’t hate the kind of people who buy Realdolls and enact their porn-fuelled fantasies on inanimate objects that are shaped like idealized women.

            I pity them. And I fear them.