edit: muting this thread, goodbye.

  • Ilixtze@lemm.eeEnglish
    42·
    2 days ago

    Me; new here thinking “hexbear” is the furry server… Oh…

    Well I was half right

  • dumbass@leminal.spaceEnglish
    328·
    2 days ago

    You know that you can block instances yourself? Like you don’t have to be forced to see their stuff. I think some of y’all enjoy whinging about shit for the sake of it.

  • kwedd@feddit.nlEnglish
    123·
    2 days ago

    Finally! This place just isn’t the same without pics of pigs shitting on their own balls.

            • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
              29·
              2 days ago

              i won’t pretend it’s perfectly done but you know hexbear is a left unity instance that explicitly welcomes anarchists, yeah?

              • kwedd@feddit.nlEnglish
                4·
                2 days ago

                While I have seen one or two anarchists post messages there, if I see a hexbear account, I do pretty much assume they are Leninist-Marxist, or at least very comfortable among LM’s. I don’t spend much time there, though, so perhaps that’s an unfair prejudice.

                • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  17·
                  2 days ago

                  or at least very comfortable among [MLs]

                  well yes, such is the nature of co-existing in a left unity space. anyway our anarchists are definitely a minority but they’re about. i can think of at least one prominent mod who is a proud anarchist and i know there are others as well (admittedly this is not the sort of thing i would ordinarily keep track of tbh)

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  16·
                  2 days ago

                  Why are you swapping Lenin and Marx? Nobody calls themselves an LM, I’ve never seen anyone write it that way.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
              203·
              2 days ago

              I used to, actually! If more people in general read Anarchist theory, the world would probably be a much better place. That being said, I do prefer Marxism. Thanks for sharing!

              • dil [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                111·
                2 days ago

                Do you have pointers to help me understand what makes you prefer Marxism? I know there’s been a bunch of discourse on it already, and this probably isn’t the spot where we resolve it, but I’m relatively new to leftism and am interested in learning more.

                Short(ish) version I have for preferring anarchism to Marxism:

                My ultimate end goal is that everyone ascend Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and self actualize.

                Self actualization requires freedom, agency, and control over things you care about. Pursuing self actualization is hard, though, and human brains want to be lazy.

                I’m anti-capitalist, but a positive of (small-scale) capitalism is that it incentivizes individuals to think, “What should exist, but doesn’t? What can I do that others would like?” and then actually go do it. Our aim should be to encourage those types of actions, but with an incentive structure that doesn’t result in… this.

                My concern is that a centralized state will result in folks voluntarily giving up their agency over stuff administered by the state, since it’s easier than feeling ownership of it. Over time, I worry this would would atrophy individuals’ agency and result in a kind of bystander effect, where folks look for the state to do things for them.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  141·
                  2 days ago

                  Thanks for asking! I’m going to oversimplify, so please, feel free to ask for elaboration!

                  For starters, I generally agree that values like freedom and agency are important. I personally believe that this isn’t a choice we can make, though, but is a product of our material conditions and resources. The best path to happiness is to improve production and to do so along a cooperative and democratic plan.

                  The reason I am a Marxist (specifically ML) is because Marx simply makes the most compelling arguments for how to get there, and why, as well as the existence of real Marxist aligned societies we can see in action. His observations like markets naturally centralizing and developing the tools for planning makes sense, we just need to nationalize large firms and key industries, and gradually fold the small firms in as they grow into large firms.

                  What you describe as a problem may happen, but not likely at a systemic level in a manner that cannot be addressed.

  • Trilobyte@feddit.ukEnglish
    627·
    2 days ago

    Don’t have a problem with what instance you’re on as long as you’re respectful I’ll be respectful back

        • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          142·
          2 days ago

          I get what you mean, and I see the brigading emoji (all/active), but I do feel like hex and grad are both very argumentative, and I don’t usually see you guys participating in other non-political communities or threads either which leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

          • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            351·
            2 days ago

            hex and grad are both very argumentative

            i mean we are communists…honestly if you think we’re bad towards y’all you should see some of our more heated discussions amongst ourselves; the only people leftists are more vicious towards than fascists and their enablers are leftists who very slightly disagree with them lol.

            don’t usually see you guys participating in other non-political communities

            possibly that’s because we have comms for a lot of those things (sports, games, movies, anime, etc) and tend to use those instead but that’s just a guess. i won’t speak for anyone else but i find a lot of the memes and stuff on lemmy are a little reddit-flavored for me so i don’t usually engage (since i don’t want to just go in and shit on people having a harmless good time or w/e)

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
            332·
            2 days ago

            Not to overwhelm you with comments, but most Hexbear and Grad users tend to stay on Hex and Grad for non-political content, funny enough. Check out Hex’s general megathreads, or the gaming comm, etc.

            As someone who made a Hexbear alt (not the other way around), it’s a far more pleasant space to relax, IMO. Plus, Communists tend to all be political nerds to begin with.

            • Bloomcole@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              2 days ago

              It’s infinitely better for political stuff too.
              Interesting post subjects and comments. (more on grad)
              lemm.ee or .world is 95% "look what stupid irrelevant thing Musk or Trump said now! "
              Not much different from any MSM. Annoying and boring mostly.

            • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOPEnglish
              31·
              2 days ago

              That makes sense, but it does give the impression that they only brigade.
              Though, I can’t think of a single time I have seen a hexbear user outside of hexbear on a non-political thread.

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                201·
                2 days ago

                I see them usually on non-political Lemmy.ml threads, if you avoid them then that explains it. Hexbear keeps a small federation list to protect its marginalized users from harrassment, and also to carve out a uniquely Leftist space.

                • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOPEnglish
                  5·
                  2 days ago

                  I thought hex originally federated with everyone, but when they started refederating they chose an allow-list. Am i wrong? I know that lemmy.world blocked them, which is where a lot of non-political content is.

        • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          41·
          2 days ago

          Hey man, I think you’re taking this slightly too seriously.

          I undestand federation, I have been on the fediverse for two-three years, and have built stuff using activitypub.

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
            86·
            2 days ago

            If you think they’re “brigading” you clearly don’t understand how federation works

              • Pili@lemmy.mlEnglish
                151·
                1 day ago

                Hexbear is a higly politicised instance, it makes sense that people from there are mainly interested in politics and would mostly interact with those posts.

              • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                182·
                1 day ago

                90% of threads are pretty boring. Most of the memes posted on Lemmy are the kinds of things I would expect from /r/memes. On the political threads people often make claims that are simply false (i.e. claiming that Marxists or ‘tankies’ love the Russian Federation) so naturally Hexbear will show up to contradict that stuff. You’d be hard pressed to find us organizing “brigades,” we literally just have a unified ideological line that we’re experienced in defending so when we see something that’s easily disproven we disprove it.

  • LarmyOfLone@lemm.eeEnglish
    3922·
    2 days ago

    However will lemmy deal with dissenting or socialist comments? Oh bless my pure centrist heart!

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    728·
    2 days ago

    hexbear-specter

    There is a spectre is haunting Lemmy — the spectre of hexbear . All the powers of new lemmy have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre