• Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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    I’m not really even arguing that people should give up working within the system, just that it very clearly isn’t enough. If you haven’t noticed, we’re losing big. Even when the Democrats win, can’t you see how little they are able to accomplish? When you play a game that’s rigged against you, you have to get creative and look for solutions that are outside the bounds of the rules that have been set before us.

    Your misplaced faith in the Democratic party is blinding you to the reality of our situation. Even within the party we have lost ground to the oligarchs, meaning our access to political power has been compromised. To take it back will require us to fight on two fronts, both within and outside the system.

    So yes, you can, but people aren’t, because people are idiots.

    Stop this. You have become jaded and cynical, which is understandable, but it’s causing you to accept a very dangerous premise. We didn’t get here because people are just idiots, the ruling class out-organized us. To believe that people are simply too stupid to fight back is to accept defeat.

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      “Clearly isn’t enough” there is no other course. You’re just trying to steer the ship into rocks as a shortcut.

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        Let’s stop talking around the issue. I’m referring to union organizing, general strikes, boycotts, mutual aid, direct action, etc. Would you consider those things “steering the ship into rocks?” Do you really think our only viable course of action is to do nothing except show up to vote on election days? We have to organize, and the Democratic leadership is uninterested in helping. Grassroots liberal progressive groups like MoveOn and Indivisible have been doing that work for them, and the Democratic leadership has been actively hostile towards them.

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          No you aren’t, you’re in a comment section where people are being pushed to worship murder and you’re defending the murder worship. Nice try.

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            3 hours ago

            The killing of Brian Thompson revealed just how frustrated the general public has become with the lack of meaningful change to our predatory healthcare system. I do not recommend that more people go out and kill health insurance CEOs, because that is a very individualistic approach to a problem that requires systemic change. That doesn’t mean I’m going to shed any tears over the death of someone who is responsible for an astronomical amount of suffering, and I do believe that defending Luigi Mangione’s rights is important not just for protecting the rights themselves, but also for demonstrating solidarity and instilling class consciousness.

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              The majority in some polls empathized with why Luigi felt the way he did, but few if any polls showed a majority of any demographic condoned it, and the general acceptance of his actions by the total of those demographics was below 20%.

              The killing of Brian Thompson revealed how much of an echo chamber you people live in.

              It doesn’t even create the class consciousness and solidarity you seek, a large number of his supporters are accelerationists who voted to gut medicaid and cut taxes and they absolutely will do so again. Feel free to go find some conservative community and shill your murder worship, maybe you’ll convince a few people to make a positive change over there.