• Lad@reddthat.com
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    The amount of people who died as a result of Brian Thompson’s leadership of united healthcare should be investigated instead

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      Western democracy is at risk until this is done. We literally don’t deserve to exist if we can’t figure this basic stuff out - i.e. when our own people are dying, maybe the empty private hospital beds and ample staff resources should be used to save those lives. Because people are… gonna die otherwise. The fact that anything else needs to be said is the problem.

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        ‘Western style democracy’ has never been truly democratic because of how money influences elections and politicians. True democracy isn’t possible as long as there exists a capital class in society. The capital class will not give up its wealth without a class war.

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          And on that score, I often muse if we should be grateful that MAGA and Trump are accelerating the timetable as they have… Capitalism, world economics and geopolitical problems as they were 20 years ago could have been sustained well into the 22nd century. We are so good at avoiding change at all costs!

          Now we are headed for a societal collapse, once the ruffians who instigated it are out of the way I think the future for humanity looks quite bright indeed. We may even beat climate change, so long as we… beat all the nasty billionaires, nazis, dictators and oligarchy first… holds head in hands

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            Capitalism is an inherently unstable system due to the contradictions that define it. Scapegoats are necessary to prevent working class from rising up, and economic conditions in the US have gotten so bad that most people no longer care about sustaining the status quo. So I don’t think the current rise of fascism could have been prevented without a socialist alternative.

            Also Biden had already changed the geopolitical landscape when he openly funded an (even domestically) deeply unpopular genocide.

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        That’s part of the problem, we don’t have ample hospital beds nor staff resources.

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          I don’t know if and am not saying there are enough to cover the gap… But there are certainly plenty of unused resources in the private hospital system. Doctors, nurses, beds, medicines that could be put to use saving lives, preventing trauma and improving the livelihoods of people in the public system.

          The private medical system has siphoned too much from the public for too long. It should always have been a premium tier for the wealthy to enjoy caviar and have cable TV in a private room after surgery. Instead, people who go to a public hospital for urgent emergency care are being sent home to die in error, instead of the ICU, because public emergency rooms are catastrophically overloaded.

          In Australia we’ve taken the disadvantage of the poor a step further, like we often do, and have propped up the private system advantaging it even further, e.g. by forcing people to pay a tax for not having private insurance, labyrinthian bureaucracy of referrals that rack up consultation fees and achieve nothing for patients, etc.

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            In the US, the system is overwhelmed in large part thanks to the financial side pushing for ever increasing patient loads and reduced staff. So nurses are saddled with more patients than they can safely take care of because an empty bed is lost profit. This has a cascade effect because staff are leaving the industry as a whole because of the understaffing, stress, and poor pay/life balance.

            I don’t know if the ACA has the same tax as your system does, but I know my state also has a tax penalty if you’re not covered by insurance. The upside to this, though, is that the state offers insurance. It’s not a great system (before you even get into the plague of issues with the finer points of the system), but it’s better than just leaving people to fend for themselves.

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    Gonna wanna see the source code on that “Pray” button. I don’t think it actually does anything.

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    I don’t want to dampen the good mood, but even if this is sent anonymously, is there any risk of the information of who is the donor being hacked, especially by corporate overlords who have every incentive to see Luigi and his supporters get punished?

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      Proxy account or donor is outside US, in a suitable country

      Edit: There is legal protection, so if that donor doesn’t have any potentially problematic business it’s safe ig.

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      Not really, Luigi already had tons of money.

      What it means is a legislator who might have actually had a positive impact on changing US Healthcare did NOT receive a 30k donation.

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    How a 30k donation to a murderer counts as “uplifting news”? If anything it’s depressing

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      There is no evidence that Luigi killed anyone. Innocent until proven guilty.

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      Innocent until proven guilty.

      Before we engage in name calling for this suspect, know that yesterday was blatantly clear the system is stacked against him to the point where the courts did not Los him to go into PA for another legal procedure.

      See the thing here is that they were giving evidence even to MAX for the documentary and not his legal team, who correctly called some of the evidence inadmissible in court.

      So before you feel like calling him a murderer see. The facts and wait for the events to unfold.

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        I mean, it would be more typical to only be charged in either state or federal for crimes like trespassing, but it’s also not unheard of for murder cases. For example, Michael White had charges in the state of West Virginia and was also sentenced for a murder in Federal court.

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          Just gonna gloss over politicians preening for HBO while denying the defense discovery material? It’s obvious they’re trying to railroad the guy before anyone else gets any ideas.

          Mincing about “well ackshually it’s technically not unheard of” is dumb and hardly the point anyone was making.

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      That’s 30 grand to someone who was accused of murder who should be entitled to the best possible defense for such a serious accusation in such a hot political climate.

      Under our current legal system, that means they are in severe need of funding to help ensure that the result is fair and just.

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      The donation doesn’t go to a CEO who has murdered hundreds, possibly thousands of people.

      It is going to someone who acted in defense of others. Or who might not be the person who even did that, which is why he deserves a fair trial.

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        Funny, if that hypothetical murderer really died wouldn’t that mean the “killings” would have stopped? Looks like nothing has changed.

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      Why are you lying? Nobody’s been convicted of murder.

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        They’ve already decided to play judge and jury, and I suspect would enjoy playing executioner.

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            Lots of people enjoy probably-Luigi playing executioner too. When you kill people for profit and you’re otherwise untouchable, people are gonna figure out how to get back at you.

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              I don’t think Luigi made a profit off the murder, the $20,000 cash was probably his own to live off while on the run.

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      They’re saying that they find due process to be lacking and the prosecution to be political.
      Do you think it’s depressing that someone would donate money to the defense of someone they think is being inappropriately prosecuted?
      If you think they’re guilty, you should still want them to get the best defense possible, so that when they’re found guilty it’s airtight. Our justice system is based on an adversarial model. If the prosecution, with the resources of the state, can’t successfully argue that they did it and that their arrest and all procedures were properly followed, do you really want that to still mean someone faces the death penalty?

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        Luigi has tons of money, though. He doesn’t need your money, and even if he did your money still isn’t helping anybody.

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          What does that have to do with anything?

          Someone with resources gave money to aid the defense of someone they think is being treated unjustly after watching and seeing what they thought was mistreatment.

          Are you just trying to aggravate people, or do you actually have a point?

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              Do you think I made this donation?

              I replied to someone saying it was sad someone gave money to a murderer.
              I don’t think it’s sad someone gave money to help someone they think might not be a murderer, and even if you think they are one, it’s not sad someone had the impulse to help push back against what they saw as a biased application of the Justice system.

              I understand you think that’s misguided in this case. Do you understand how that’s kind of a nonsequitur?

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      this is like saying donating to a guy who killed someone actively killing others is never uplifting news. Sure leave the school shooters alone

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        If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.

        The blood is on the hands of voters.

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          as CEO, even if you arent the one who made the executive decision to make the denials, they still have the power to change the internal policy. It’s a FAR well known issue that UHC denied a lot of coverage. He was outright complicit with it, and unlike most people, actually had the power to overturn the problem.

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            Then we should be trying to solve that problem instead of throwing money at a rich kid murderer.

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      Yeah TBH I dislike Luigi a little bit more every time I see his face.

      People are actually worshiping this guy for some reason.

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          The animalistic “unga bunga club problems to death” part of their brain combined with anarchist and tankie propaganda campaigns promoting insurgency and chaos, as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.

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            as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.

            Then enlighten us and bring us out of our darkness.

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              I’m just going to stick to the most recent contributing events

              In 2009-2011 the US Senate had 58 DNC seats and 2 caucusing IND seats totaling filibuster-proof 60 votes needed to pass reforms for 72 workings days, and they attempted to pass a method of funding treatment for people who could not afford it, sometimes referred to as singlepayer or public option healthcare. Due to one of the caucusing IND votes not voting with the DNC, and every single Republican voting Nay, it did not pass.

              We gave them less seats in the next two elections. Every single year since 2015 we’ve given that party who wanted healthcare reform less than 50 senate seats.

              We’ve created the system that Brian Thompson profited off of, and when we killed him all we did was free up a spot for yet another out of tens of millions of terrible people to hop into and do exactly the same thing, as has always been done since health insurance was conceived and always will do because we refuse to change it. No matter how many more people die, no matter how much blood is on our hands.

              And because people don’t understand that they think the resistance is people like Luigi, who accomplish nothing, instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.

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        It’s uplifting news and has nothing to do with politics. Perhaps Reddit is a better place for you

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          I agree it isn’t political but it’s definitely not uplifting, unless you’re some kind of murder cultist.

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            You forgot the “victim” denies medical claims for a living, bankrupting people. If you think he’s the victim, you’re the problem.

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              That “victim” worked at a “company” which still denies medical claims for a living, paying for the majority of claim holders medical via distribution of wealth.

              The “reason” this is allowed is because “voters” keep choosing this system, and most recently voted to expand it by removing socialized healthcare for an addition 79 Million Americans.

              And Luigi has done fuck all to even toss a wrench in.

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                to add in the callousness, even his boss WITTY, and hemsely isnt to bothered by the news.

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                Lfmao. He was the one who made those calls. Now the next CEO needs a visit by Mario.

                I think you’ll find your opinion on this matter in the minority on Lemmy, but keep on blaming the “company” who aren’t run by “people” apparently.

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                  You will never kill all the evil people in this world as long as people exist. There will always at least be you.

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        Everything is political. The sooner you get over this “I’m tired of politics, let me enjoy my doomscrolling” attitude, the more respectable you’ll be.

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          No it isn’t. This is how subs like r/technology got ruined, the whole thing got filled with “political post that involves technology” instead of just “technology”.

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        I think you’ll find across the spectrum, people are frustrated to the point where it’s not a political issue

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        Healthcare is only political to 1/3 of the country. Everyone else sees it for what it is: a human right

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        Yeah, because there’s surely not enough political communities on there already