cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24394554

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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don’t care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal “Chinese spy,” while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

“This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,” Quintin said. “People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks.”

  • TheImpressiveX@lemm.eeEnglish
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    13 days ago

    “This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,” Quintin said. “People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks.”

    Once again…meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  • Krauerking@lemy.lolEnglish
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    12 days ago

    Yeah sorry but no. Lemmy sucks and the fediverse is an overly complicated mess of in groups, our groups, federated and non federated communities and people will be racist to you and and you can also end up indoctrinated just as much by picking the wrong community starting point.

    Wondering why people aren’t here doesn’t take a big mystery and despite all the people in here with blinders for all kinds of topics I’m not shocked that anyone looking in would be disgusted, compare this place to 4chan with user names and move on.

  • m_f@discuss.onlineEnglish
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    14 days ago

    Was just talking with a friend that downloaded a Mastodon app a while back when Twitter was bought by Elon, encountered the “Choose a server” bit, and bailed after choice paralysis. They’re technical and have a doctorate in Computer Science so it’s not like they couldn’t figure it out, but there’s something in the human psyche where most people don’t want to make choices like that. They’re on Bluesky now and think its great.

    IMO sites like https://pixelfed.org/how-to-join and https://join-lemmy.org/ should just have a normal sign up flow, and load balance between all servers that opt in. Looks like that’s going to happen for Pixelfed:

    https://mastodon.social/@dansup/113830788279211715

    It’ll make some people unhappy, but that’s just how you get “normies” onto the Fediverse.

      • Care_anew@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Decision fatigue. It’s a well known concept and can even be used in marketing as a standard manipulation tactic. If you have a job that has you making strategic decisions all day though, then you’ll get decision fatigue. Then the last thing you want to do is mull over a bunch of server details to make the right choice 🤷‍♀️

    • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      14 days ago

      If there were a good invite system you could have just shared that including a pre-selected instance for your friend. That’s way more effective than trying to explain federation to people not really that interested in the first place.

  • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    14 days ago

    “This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,”

    So they move (and apparently willingly provide more access to their info than they already need to) to a platform that is controlled by a different few oligarchs, as a treat… 🙄

    Also, you say we’re right here, but the number of people already here praising this shit* because they’re either tankies simping for faux communists, or simply too indoctrinated to realise that you don’t have to choose one, and can oppose both oppressive states (which use almost identical tactics), is pretty fucking gross.

    *and before they descend on me with their bullshit and excuses and their throwing of marginalised people under the bus for the sake of maintaining their own black and white view of the world - yes Chinese and American people communicating and breaking down barriers is good. However the idea that this can honestly and freely be done on their oppressive state controlled media, any more than it can on ours, or that one is somehow less oppressive than the other, is a joke, and so are the people ignoring the fact that both states have equally terrible mass surveillance and control over our communications.

  • knexcar@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Maybe people want a platform that’s more than just a constant Linux and capitalism-bad circlejerk sprinkled with some basic news and askreddit-type threads.

  • shoulderoforion@fedia.io
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    14 days ago

    “people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs” so they’re willingly submitting to and supporting CCP tyrannical oppression because they personally have never felt it’s raw evil, “Fuck the Chinese” I guess, huh

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      13 days ago

      Nah, fuck the Chinese GOVERNMENT. You don’t have to be bigoted towards the people of a country to disapprove of what their authoritarian government does.

      Personally, I have nothing against the people of China, Iran, or the US (to name a few obvious examples of peoples under the boot of an unrepresentative government), but that doesn’t mean that I approve the oppression and other abuses their governments keep committing towards their own people and others.