One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It’s a shame it’s not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it’s used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)
Wired headphones… could be used while charging
Sure is a shame nobody ever came up with a way to do that before.
I hate how we’re stuck in a limbo between headphones jacks and usb-c. Like the change was bad to begin with, but if you’re going to switch to usb-c, then do it fully.
USB-C for everything honestly would have been good if they had. But we’re stuck in a limbo
The person who decided a headphone jack is superfluous should be found, tarred, feathered, and left naked and alone deep in the alaskan wilderness covered in pigs blood for the wildlife to enjoy.
- I never understood why space should be at premium. A phone does not need to be as thin as possible. 1½-2cm thickness is reasonable in my eyes, and would allow so much more ports and/or buttons. I would have use for 2-3 extra buttons.
- The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable
The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable
This is my biggest problem with my switch! I have to awkwardly hold it when I’m trying to ay laying on the couch or in bed. I hear the Steam Deck has a port on top for charging so it’s already begun!
Can confirm top port for the SteamDeck. Perfect for relaxed gaming while charging. :-)
And most people add a bulky case anyway. Just integrate that shit into the phone!
Soon you’re gonna feel lucky that your phone has even ONE port.
Give it 5 years and Apple will have removed their lightning and/or USB port and gone wireless on everything.
Apple is going to be compelled to offer USB-C as a wired charging connection in Europe if it offers a wired charging option.
Which means bye bye charging port
“Brave”
The worst part is AirDrop sucks. BT audio is still mediocre at best too.
I’m sure Apple is working on some new wireless standard called “magic connect” or some shit like that. It will be 13.8% better but make all previous devices obsolete and incompatible pushing people to trash their old stuff and buy some new overpriced, proprietary stuff.
Then when they introduce this new standard, their next presentation slide will pat themselves in the back because they are such a “green” company.
Is wireless charging even possible?
Yeah, you set your phone on this pad, and it charges without being directly connected.
To give more details since somebody else gave you the short answer: Not only is it possible, most mid-to-high-end phones and all watches have that feature today. Google “Qi charging”, which is the modern global standard (although many devices are still on their own incompatible standards – Galaxy Watch, I’m looking in your direction).
Yes but it currently wastes a lot of electricity and doesn’t charge the phone as fast in general.
You know what? As long as the second port isn’t gimped in any way (can do video out + all the typical USB things), then I might forgive them for taking away the headphone jack.
Bring back the headphone port! Bring back the headphone port! Bring back the headphone port!
headphone jacks are still available for mid ranged androids, even along with a charger. pretty much the only win we can get for purchasing a mid ranged androids.
Not being ridiculously overpriced is another advantage imo.
Lg v60, 2 screens, headphone port, Microsd.
Good night, sweet prince.
Man I miss LG being in the phone market.
It never dissapeared - you just started buying devices without one
The selection is pretty slim.
Can’t be that important if people don’t actually choose with their wallets (Xperia 5 II owner btw)
Rn I’m hoping the 5 V will be announced soon, my 1 II’s battery is absolutely fucked lol.
Sony says hi :)
I would rather have 2 usb c ports that way you can use it fir other stuff as well
I’d rather have another USB port actually. It’s just so much more versatile.
Honestly, this. I’m not happy that they took away my headphone jack, but if they’d replaced it with a second USB port I would have been okay with it.
I started using wireless headphones back when I had Sony Ericsson 530i dumb phone. Also phones back then didn’t have headphone ports either. Who the hell cares about it?
Owners and enjoyers of good headphones.
They’re all wireless for years.
I think you misunderstand what I mean by “good” headphones. You’re caught in the electronics hype cycle. Good headphones exist outside of that cycle. Also good wired headphones you never have to charge, the battery never dies. If you take care of them they never become ewaste.
One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It’s a shame it’s not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it’s used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)
I think you’re just a very conservative person who’s totally out of loop.
I’m an incredibly liberal person who enjoys nice things.
I used to think this but a dedicated mp3 player is superior to using a phone for audio anyway
If all you play is local media then maybe. I like to stream music from my own server though and also listen to podcasts on the go.
And the 2nd one could go full thunderbolt too
This is what life is when all viable phones are made by two giant tech companies.
Weird headphones don’t use ucb-c, there is already a standard for headphones and it’s the 3.5mm audio jack.
That’s not the only standard though. There is also 6.3mm jack, XLR and many other open and proprietary connectors.
I want XLR my next phone! 😀
a) I have a USB-c headset at work
b) the 3.5mm headphone jack can’t be used to transfer data (at a good rate)
Not sure what exactly you mean by headset. But headphones and IEMs will use a 3.5mm or 1/4" jack. My sennheisers use it, my beyerdynamics use it, my audio Technicas use it. Even my KZ IEMs and moondrop IEMs use it. This is a universal standard for a reason.
And not sure what the data rate has to do with anything. It’s an audio connector, it’s not used to transfer data, it’s used to move the drivers in a set of headphones. As usb-c doesn’t output line level audio, any headset you have that uses it needs its own DAC and amp which is problematic for e-waste reasons.
Headset, as in headphones with a microphone. I use it for MS Teams meetings and a bit of music and it works fine.
The point OP was trying to make is that you can use USB-c for other things besides listening to music.
Since you seem to be an audiophile with a list of fancy headphones (don’t ask me, my Cardo combined with earplugs is fine for the level of listening I want to do) then wouldn’t an offboard DAC / amp that you could keep far longer than a phone, and isn’t restricted by size constraints going to be better than a built-in version?
Also, if you’re worried about e-waste maybe you shouldn’t buy so many headphones. My partner’s Sennheisers have lasted 20 years so far.
ASUS ROG Phones have them. Also with a headphone jack I think.
I still keep a drawing of my ideal phone from years ago and I also has two ports like you mention. I totally agree!
can i see?
Wireless USB never took off. Essentials company was promisimg with PH1, it had wireless USB port. only released two wireless USB compatible devices for it though.
I agree with this idea. But it would make it harder to pick up your phone blindly and know which end is the top. I instinctively feel for the usb port on the bottom so it’s oriented correctly by the time my arm swings it into view.
The phone screen can rotate based on orientation. I can use it upside down and it’s fully functional
This sounds neat until you need to use the camera or actually phone somebody on it. Which end is the mic?
Idk about your phone, but my phone has a mic on both ends and a speaker on both (though the speaker placement is a bit different on the bottom than it is on top).
You can plug a USB hub into your phone. That’d give you more ports.
I’m fairly certain there are hubs out there with a pass-through for charging as wellHaving something built in is so much better than needing a dongle. There’s a reason why even Apple brought back ports like hdmi and sd card slot to their Mac book pro line to eliminate even the needing a dongle for some people.
Am I the only one who uses magnetic cables?
I use them too! My phone usually fast charge at 30W, but with the magnetic cable it is capped at 5W (thanks God). I’ve seen drastic improvement in term of battery life because it charges slower and do not stress the battery as much as at 30W
Can USB hubs even allow the phone to be charged and simultaneously control things through the same port? I know I tried that back in the USB2 days and found it infuriatingly false, since had set up a wired USB mouse and game controller to my tablet for portable shooters. One particular hazard is I’ve found that combining bluetooth headphones and game controllers can result in unplayably-bad latency on Android, so wired options would be nice.
I think yes. USB-C docks are the proof.
Yes they can and do. The pins are separate and power delivery is both faster and more efficient than it used to be.
I agree. If we’re going to lose the headphone port in favour of connecting to a universal connection (either directly or via an adaptor) then it’s time we have two of them. As for positioning I gather that there are lots of handheld PC’s with the one on top and one on bottom configuration and that it’s generally accepted to be the best way (and my on top 3.5mm and on bottom USB-c seems to work pretty well) so I think you’re right but it would be nice to see manufacturers try out a few different configurations to see in practise what people prefer.
I think on a phone it would make sense for bottom and side, which is the top of a handheld PC. That way you could have the cord sticking out whatever direction was handy for you by turning your phone.
Asus ROG does this
