I think the point still stands relatively well as a woman saying “no” in this instance is respected by the dog, so a woman saying “no” to a man’s sexual advances should result in basically the same behavior. It’s not a matter of women needing to train men, it’s a matter of men needing to understand the word “no” and actually respect it.
I disagree. The dog is a stand-in for men, and dogs would be all over that chicken if not trained. That dog would totally eat the chicken anyway if it was starving.
I prefer the consensual tea analogy more, because tea is something that can be shared between two people, no one needs tea to live, and forcing someone to drink tea is fucked up. Stealing a chicken is just nature’s way.
But what if we have it wrong and the chicken is keeping the dog away from the girl?
I think the point still stands relatively well as a woman saying “no” in this instance is respected by the dog, so a woman saying “no” to a man’s sexual advances should result in basically the same behavior. It’s not a matter of women needing to train men, it’s a matter of men needing to understand the word “no” and actually respect it.
I disagree. The dog is a stand-in for men, and dogs would be all over that chicken if not trained. That dog would totally eat the chicken anyway if it was starving.
I prefer the consensual tea analogy more, because tea is something that can be shared between two people, no one needs tea to live, and forcing someone to drink tea is fucked up. Stealing a chicken is just nature’s way.
But what if we have it wrong and the chicken is keeping the dog away from the girl?
Yes. The “cup of tea” model of consent, despite some subtle flaws in the analogy, is so far the best way to illustrate these kinds of points.