• flicker@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    If an all-knowing creator didn’t want humans to eat fruit from a specific tree, he shouldn’t have grown that tree in the only garden he had humans in.

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        19 days ago

        Oh, right. The obedience only matters if you have to make yourself do it. It doesn’t count if it’s natural and painless and costs you nothing. Can’t believe I forgot about that?

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          19 days ago

          It doesn’t seem you believe in much. Be at peace with your natural choices. There will always be a cost

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            19 days ago

            I have a ton I believe in.

            I believe in being kind, I believe in helping others, I believe in the hardworking men and women in medicine. There’s so many things I believe in that it would take forever to list it all.

            I also believe that telling other people sanctimonious things like “Be at peace with your natural choices. There will always be a cost” is not only off-putting and self-aggrandizing, but exactly the kind of crap the Bible tells you not to do.

            I’ll leave you with some advice my favorite nun gave me when I was 12. No one left alive hasn’t heard the message of Jesus Christ. There’s no one left. So proselytizing the way the Bible commands you to do is almost impossible. Since you can reasonably assume most people who aren’t Christian have reason not to be, the best way to reach them isn’t by being a holier-than-thou preacher, it’s by living the light of the word and showing non-Christians what that means. “Live by example, what Christ has done for you.”

            Because one of the other things I believe, is that genuine Christians, who follow their book, are some of the best people on Earth. But for every one of them, with a kind heart and forgiving words and judge-not-lest-ye-be-judged stamped on their lips, there’s about three hundred assholes saying vaguely judgemental shit on the internet and to one another behind closed doors. The “cost” of which only serves to help close those hearts and minds further to any positive message the Bible encourages you to spread.

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              19 days ago

              We’re on a forum my friend, there is no spirit here. I’ve made 2 small remarks and you somehow got me and my intent all figured out. Maybe everyone on the planet has heard at the very least the existence of the message. There is no room here to have any form of discussion on what that message can mean. But people are finding God, as adults, the way you’ve said, through intimate dialog and love.

              I meant no disrespect. I merely said there’s a cost no matter how you choose, or how life has been laid out before you, and to be at peace is a simple remark for your sarcasm. English is my second language. If this offended you, I apologize. This is lemmy. Hardly a platform to have any meaningful discussion on relationships with a God or religion. Or politics.

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                19 days ago

                ESL makes perfect sense!

                I’ve adjusted how I read your comments with that knowledge.

                “Be at peace” in English is considered an order, and isn’t usually said out of kindness (at least not in America). Here, it can be read as a threat. Which I now know you didn’t mean.

                Have a lovely day, friend.