It’s not a bubble though. That’s like waiting for the internet bubble to pop back in the 90s. AI will be around from now on, just not as such an in your face way. It will eventually become ubiquitous, just like many other pieces of tech.
This massive new economic sector that is eclipsing the GDP of most nations combined in under 10 years, which is almost entirely subsidized by a combination of venture capital, which is being forced in to any product that involves electricity regardless of suitability, this industry and that loses money every time a user interacts with it (even the paying customers) is not a bubble?
Please, enlighten us on what you think an economic bubble is. A lot of us were around for the dotcom bubble; to say it was not one, when we were standing there watching the market rise into the stratosphere and come crashing down, is a bit much.
I think you misunderstood me. All AI is humanity-ending garbage that needs to be eliminated. I don’t give two figs how or where it’s used - I want it all gone.
From your votes and lack of response I can indeed surmise that you’re a hypocrite who’s never had a remote semblance of an opinion about AI until it’s become fashionable to hate it, whereupon you promptly jumped on the bandwagon and started shouting about how all AI ruins the planet, regardless of the nuances that are too much for you to think of. It’s remarkable how loud schmucks like you can hijack the conversation. Just cry wolf as much as you can, that’s enough for the entirety of the cognitive capacity of yourself and people like you. What an embarrassment.
The impact directly depends on the area of application. AlphaFold has been around for at least seven years, it’s got jackshit to do with the current LLM bubble. Were you against AlphaFold in 2020, or are you a hypocrite?
If you want a government with the kind of regulatory power to “put all this nonsense on hold” why not use that regulatory power to generate cleaner energy and solve the problem? The current clean energy sources we have right now are cheaper than what’s currently being used for energy generation. They’re also faster to get online and can be put in more places. The reason we’re not using those sources right now is because of politics, not economics or technology. The solution to environmental damage caused by energy production is to use cleaner energy. Stopping people from using technology on the user level won’t do much of anything.
Brain rot, job destruction, increased inequality, massive acceleration in global warming, massive decrease in the quality of critical systems, societal and economic collapse…
Explain how an AI calculating protein foldings will cause brain rot, job destruction, increased inequality, massive acceleration in global warming, massive decrease in the quality of critical systems, and societal and economic collapse.
Explain how protein folding software, which predates “genAI” by decades and has as many similarities with it as with Tetris, has anything to do with this conversation.
You have trouble following your own train of thought, apparently. You replied in a thread claiming “All AI is humanity-ending garbage”, claiming it causes “Brain rot, job destruction, increased inequality, massive acceleration in global warming, massive decrease in the quality of critical systems, societal and economic collapse”, and then you ask me where you said what you said. Lay off the drugs before you completely fry your brains, dumbass.
That’s fearmongering. It has use cases and has had them well before this LLM AI bubble. The bubble will pop and hopefully these CEOs are actually charged unlike 2008.
Explain how an AI calculating protein foldings feeds people’s collective cynicism, lack of social skills, general paranoia, lack of trust in each other, waning hope for the future, and whatnot.
Oh, so your approach to arguments is just to deny that you said what you said? Amazing skills there. You replied to a thread claiming that “All AI is humanity-ending garbage” claiming it does that “by feeding people’s collective cynicism, lack of social skills, general paranoia, lack of trust in each other, waning hope for the future, etc.”, and then you say you didn’t say that. So you just lie, and that’s your entire argument? Maybe learn to follow the most basic of argumentation logic.
You don’t even know why I said that. Why do I have to suffer people who are incapable of reconstructing someone else’s argument?
The ML approach to protein folding is a different system, used in different ways, by different people. Your insistance on conflating a data analysis technique with a robot that will pretend to be your girlfriend is utterly bizarre. It’s so oblivious and unaware, I don’t even know what to do with it. It’s like you want people to dislike protein folding. I don’t understand why your camp insists on treating these like they’re the same thing.
Except I do, actually: it’s the card says moops. A very Republican tactic, if I’m being honest.
Does anyone else think that the old refrain of letting nerds run the world was actually incredibly misguided because nearly all of them lack the social skills necessary to not be sociopaths?
I was a network engineer at one of the biggest backbones on Earth before retiring. Before that, I designed and programmed industrial automation. So, no tech background at all.
Now that that’s out of the way: a blind squirrel could see that sucking up all the energy and wasting endless fresh water is a bad thing for the environment. The “bigger-than-2008” market crash that’s also coming won’t help.
And again, AI has been around for many years before the LLM craze and these select few companies advocating to shove it in all our faces, forcefully pushing data centers everywhere and integrating it into as much as they can. That is not something that could or should be done with AI. It is these company executives choosing to push it like this. It wasn’t always like this nor did it have to be
NO.
My pitchfork stays sharpened and at the ready until this stupid bubble pops.
It’s not a bubble though. That’s like waiting for the internet bubble to pop back in the 90s. AI will be around from now on, just not as such an in your face way. It will eventually become ubiquitous, just like many other pieces of tech.
This massive new economic sector that is eclipsing the GDP of most nations combined in under 10 years, which is almost entirely subsidized by a combination of venture capital, which is being forced in to any product that involves electricity regardless of suitability, this industry and that loses money every time a user interacts with it (even the paying customers) is not a bubble?
Please, enlighten us on what you think an economic bubble is. A lot of us were around for the dotcom bubble; to say it was not one, when we were standing there watching the market rise into the stratosphere and come crashing down, is a bit much.
The AI was used for background assets that they failed to remove but patched quickly after. It’s not as egregious as the headline makes it out to be.
I think you misunderstood me. All AI is humanity-ending garbage that needs to be eliminated. I don’t give two figs how or where it’s used - I want it all gone.
From your votes and lack of response I can indeed surmise that you’re a hypocrite who’s never had a remote semblance of an opinion about AI until it’s become fashionable to hate it, whereupon you promptly jumped on the bandwagon and started shouting about how all AI ruins the planet, regardless of the nuances that are too much for you to think of. It’s remarkable how loud schmucks like you can hijack the conversation. Just cry wolf as much as you can, that’s enough for the entirety of the cognitive capacity of yourself and people like you. What an embarrassment.
AI that finds protein foldings or cures for cancer is humanity-ending? Careful with that stretching, you might hurt yourself.
You can list a thousand nifty end results of AI and it won’t change the impact it’s having on our environment right now.
How about this: we put all this nonsense on hold until we solve cold fusion first?
The impact directly depends on the area of application. AlphaFold has been around for at least seven years, it’s got jackshit to do with the current LLM bubble. Were you against AlphaFold in 2020, or are you a hypocrite?
If you want a government with the kind of regulatory power to “put all this nonsense on hold” why not use that regulatory power to generate cleaner energy and solve the problem? The current clean energy sources we have right now are cheaper than what’s currently being used for energy generation. They’re also faster to get online and can be put in more places. The reason we’re not using those sources right now is because of politics, not economics or technology. The solution to environmental damage caused by energy production is to use cleaner energy. Stopping people from using technology on the user level won’t do much of anything.
Do you even have a tech background? How is a machine learning algorithm going to end humanity?
Brain rot, job destruction, increased inequality, massive acceleration in global warming, massive decrease in the quality of critical systems, societal and economic collapse…
Explain how an AI calculating protein foldings will cause brain rot, job destruction, increased inequality, massive acceleration in global warming, massive decrease in the quality of critical systems, and societal and economic collapse.
Explain how protein folding software, which predates “genAI” by decades and has as many similarities with it as with Tetris, has anything to do with this conversation.
You have trouble following your own train of thought, apparently. You replied in a thread claiming “All AI is humanity-ending garbage”, claiming it causes “Brain rot, job destruction, increased inequality, massive acceleration in global warming, massive decrease in the quality of critical systems, societal and economic collapse”, and then you ask me where you said what you said. Lay off the drugs before you completely fry your brains, dumbass.
That’s fearmongering. It has use cases and has had them well before this LLM AI bubble. The bubble will pop and hopefully these CEOs are actually charged unlike 2008.
By feeding people’s collective cynicism, lack of social skills, general paranoia, lack of trust in each other, waning hope for the future, etc.
Do have a humanities background? All tech people should have one.
Explain how an AI calculating protein foldings feeds people’s collective cynicism, lack of social skills, general paranoia, lack of trust in each other, waning hope for the future, and whatnot.
It’s not. Trap circumvented. Do you have another question?
Oh, so your approach to arguments is just to deny that you said what you said? Amazing skills there. You replied to a thread claiming that “All AI is humanity-ending garbage” claiming it does that “by feeding people’s collective cynicism, lack of social skills, general paranoia, lack of trust in each other, waning hope for the future, etc.”, and then you say you didn’t say that. So you just lie, and that’s your entire argument? Maybe learn to follow the most basic of argumentation logic.
You don’t even know why I said that. Why do I have to suffer people who are incapable of reconstructing someone else’s argument?
The ML approach to protein folding is a different system, used in different ways, by different people. Your insistance on conflating a data analysis technique with a robot that will pretend to be your girlfriend is utterly bizarre. It’s so oblivious and unaware, I don’t even know what to do with it. It’s like you want people to dislike protein folding. I don’t understand why your camp insists on treating these like they’re the same thing.
Except I do, actually: it’s the card says moops. A very Republican tactic, if I’m being honest.
I have both actually. There are many, many use cases for AI and again, they were used before people like you even knew it was a concept.
Well, you’re not putting it to very good use.
I use machine learning all the time for stats what do you mean 😭
Stats.
Does anyone else think that the old refrain of letting nerds run the world was actually incredibly misguided because nearly all of them lack the social skills necessary to not be sociopaths?
I was a network engineer at one of the biggest backbones on Earth before retiring. Before that, I designed and programmed industrial automation. So, no tech background at all.
Now that that’s out of the way: a blind squirrel could see that sucking up all the energy and wasting endless fresh water is a bad thing for the environment. The “bigger-than-2008” market crash that’s also coming won’t help.
You have no idea what an ‘AI’ is, so apparently none of that tech background helped if you’re still that ignorant.
And again, AI has been around for many years before the LLM craze and these select few companies advocating to shove it in all our faces, forcefully pushing data centers everywhere and integrating it into as much as they can. That is not something that could or should be done with AI. It is these company executives choosing to push it like this. It wasn’t always like this nor did it have to be