• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    19 days ago

    You misunderstood what I meant, so I must have communicated badly.

    I meant, people who often say “leave me alone” are “libertarian” types who want to benefit from society without contributing as they’re able (with money or labor). Think of the kind of guy who says “leave me alone! I don’t want to pay taxes for some school. I don’t even have kids.” They benefit from public education, but they don’t see it that way, and they’d rather keep that 20% of their paycheck than have a fire department. I wouldn’t call a baby a “freeloader” because they’re not really capable of doing much. It’s when people can contribute but selfishly and self-destructively choose not to that I’m scornful.

    In other words, when someone says their politics are “leave me alone” I am very suspicious of their understanding of society. They want the privileges of society without the obligations, typically.

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      19 days ago

      That’s fair, sorry I assumed the worst from the language I used. Weathy Libertarian Freeloaders …i suppose I understand the term being applied to them.

      Selfish nihilists is what I call them, values-free economic nihilists.

    • ulterno@programming.dev
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      19 days ago

      When I say “leave me alone”, I mean:

      • don’t come up to my table when I am studying, snatch what I am working on and run away…
      • don’t bang/kick on my door when you only intend to run away…
      • don’t steal stuff from my bag/locker/whatever container legally marked as mine…
      • don’t, when you randomly see me walking on the road, minding my own business, come and beat me up or try to frame me for some random crime that you made up…

      … just to then say, “oh! I’m just trying to make friends”.

      If that is how you (whoever that is) make friends, leave me alone. I don’t want to be made into your “friend”.