• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    9 days ago

    spying

    ChatGPT was only released as SaaS, every thing you use it for goes through OpenAI’s servers.

    Deepseek was open-sourced, you can run it on a local machine where it is physically impossible for China to spy on you.

    They also released how they trained Deepseek, so you could even make your own Deepseek, as these guys are doing.

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      9 days ago

      Of course chatgpt is saas, because it’s a service built on top of a gpt model, which they made public

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            8 days ago

            Roflmasterbigpimp accused the Chinese company of spying.

            I pointed out that the Chinese company can’t spy becaause it’s model was open source and could be locally run, while the US company set up its operation to allow it to spy on any use of its model.

            Mubelotix claimed ChatGPT made their model public, which would only be relevant to the conversation as a evidence that the US is not spying either.

            I said the model isn’t public.

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              8 days ago

              Well, there is an Android client that sends keystrokes (and loads of other data) back to Chinese servers. Which very much fulfils my definitions of spying.

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                8 days ago

                The app uses Deepseek’s servers. It physically could not function if it didn’t send your input data to their servers.

                What other data does it send?

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                  8 days ago

                  It is not about sending just the prompt. It’s about sending keystrokes, which goes beyond input to the current app.

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                    8 days ago

                    Keystrokes you put into the app is useful for the devs to understand user intentions. But you saaid “loads of other data”.

                    Answer by question first, what “loads of other data”? Did you just make that up?