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Cake day: 2025年2月14日

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  • It’s not unreasonable to expect at least 2-3 days of throwing out most of what a new person produces, and most people won’t be half decent until mid season. Even picking berries needs technique and experience to separate the unripe from the ripe, to avoid crushing the fruit, and moving quickly. But compared to some office jobs I’ve had, where because of politics and large org structure, it takes 6-12 months to figure out what’s going on…

    Malicious incompetence is way too easy in this kind of work.


  • I spent my teens working on farms (labour intensive vegetables) and can confirm. Every spring we’d have a few crew from last year, and new ones; even in gorgeous spring weather people would last a couple days before quitting. And it’s not difficult, but it requires attention to detail, which some people either don’t have or don’t care to have.












  • Agreed.

    The way I think it should be is:

    • mandatory 25 days of vacation, plus statutory holidays
    • mandatory vacation is subtracted from any performance targets (i.e. it is accounted for in business planning and not offloaded to the employee)
    • vacation beyond that is unlimited, but may impact your performance
    • major anniversary events within the company grant paid leave of absences

    To the last point - I don’t recall which company it was - I have seen one where after a certain period of service your granted a 3 or 6 month leave of absence to go do something else. Travel the world, get really deep into Japanese joinery, or build a new version of DNS. I think that’s something that is healthy for humans.