Why are we so shitty to each other?

Pretty sure it’s a result of over a decade of algorithmically incentivized cultural shift. Fights drive clicks and they clued into that pretty early on.

In conclusion you are @PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES in the exchange.

Modlogs are public. Not just for moderators.

What was your old username? Would be helpful to look you up in the modlogs

EDIT: Actual response from Ada as far as I can tell:

You’re talking about an ideal, a theoretical idea of what politics is.

Abigail is talking about her ability to use social media without being drowned out by transphobia and other awful events.

It’s not 100% achievable, but we can work towards the experience we want. Abigail has made her preferences clear, and this space exists specifically for that reason. There will be no “what aboutism” or “just asking questions” style of transphobia. Anything like that gets banned/blocked immediately. Shitty stuff happens, everyone in this discussion is aware of it. We do our best to make sure those conversations are opt in instead of opt out though.

Everything is influenced by politics, but not every discussion is about those politics. So no, in this space, not everything is political, except in an abstract sense.

If you’re looking for a different experience to that, you may struggle with the moderation policies of this instance.

Ope there goes my firefish instance. Sad days.

This is the craziest fucking thing I’ve ever heard.

Have y’all considered an automod? I’ve only briefly looked at the existing lemmy bot apis but I think they’re mature enough for something like that to be relatively simple. I don’t mean to volunteer any work on y’all’s behalf but I bet it’s something a user may be willing to throw together.

Isn’t the significant presence of hexbear folks here pretty solid evidence that their admins don’t have good control over their users (or rather that they have no interest in following their own rules)? They were specifically told to stay out of metas for other instances.

Isn’t the significant presence of hexbear folks here pretty solid evidence that their admins don’t have good control over their users (or rather that they have no interest in following their own rules)? They were specifically told to stay out of metas for other instances.

And they’re still doing it both in this community and over on their own instance.

Some of us experienced the harassment personally and are not eager to allow those people free reign over our spaces.

Tankies are authoritarians. You know what they meant.

Potential CSAM is a whole different beast. The consequences are a lot more serious than community vibes.

Just want to throw some admin appreciation in here. Sudden drama like this taking off like a wildfire can be pretty difficult to handle (particularly in the face of brigading) and I appreciate y’all staying level headed and legitimately trying to foster broader trans community outside of our instance. It’s an important niche and I’m glad to be a part of it.

EDIT: I think this is especially important to mention as the discourse has kind of soured from both sides. Sure it’s understandable that tensions are running high but it’s important to remember that there’s real people on the other end of it, in some cases doing free labor for a community that they love.

To be fair, they did explicitly change their rules after how the last thread went. I think it’s reasonable to have another discussion with that in mind. That said I am in favor of defederating.

This is pretty slick. Should work as far as I can tell. Maybe an outsized amount of work to host another instance though.

almost stopped using lemmy altogether

I definitely empathize with this

Being harassed and called a lib for criticizing their dogpiling doesn’t feel like unity to me.

Because I have moderated communities that live and die by the quality of their discussion and I understand that once you slip too far, you will not come back. Rabid circlejerky instances that promote dogpiling do not facilitate discussion and as a whole are bad for the health of the threadiverse. If people can’t have a reasonable discussion here they will simply leave. That does not mean that I think hexbear should not exist, but they should probably be contained to their own corner of the broader threadiverse.

Them not jiving with the broader threadiverse is absolutely reason to defederate. They should probably be in their own network of leftist shitposting and trolling instances. Places with similar tone and customs around dogpiling.