… I proposed this as well, and another thing NaN is quite close to is… Naan bread, lol.
Basically a kind of flatbread, usually associated with India, sort of kind of like pita bread.
Its pronounced like… Non, at least the way I pronounce Non, as a PNW dialect English native speaker, not like Nan, as in Nanna, or other similar words to refer to a grandmother, or sometimes mother, different vowel sound.
Thanks haha.
Always remember:
Sucking at something is the first step toward being kinda good at something.
=D
Depending on what programming language you are using, and precisely how you’ve coded a function, which exact numerical data types, and functions/methods you are using…
Actually attempting to divide something by zero will result in either NaN, Not a Number, Null, or an Unhandled Exception, as an… output value/error type.
I tried to explain ‘void’ a bit better, Im not personally familiar with any code language that’ll have ‘void’ as an output/error type when you try to divide by zero… but most people use the phrase ‘null and void’, so, my brain associated that word in as well.
As far as how those terms refer back to an anarchist mindset?
I am ‘not a number’, I am a human being, so are all others.
Null or nulled out has been a cyberpunkish slang term to refer to both an individual being seen as inherently unspecial, not unique, made into just another consumer/commodity… as well referring to actually killing or otherwise neutralizing someone or something… for decades now.
It seems you get the less programmy meaning of ‘unhandled exception’, in the ‘become ungovernable’ sense, but now hopefully you also get the math/programmer meaning, and see how these all work as double entendres or at least have somewhat esoteric meanings.
… The problem is that they don’t work as well in common speech as a replacement for common nouns… with at least one of the reasons why that is the case being that evidently the multifarious meanings are too esoteric, lol, which is why I said I was mostly proposing these as jokes.
I think the first two are… well they got more flair, more pizzazz than my suggestions!
Maybe you could … go from diverrs to like… webdivers, or some flaired up spelling of that?
More of an old school / stereotypical cyberpunk way of saying you’re doing a big deep dive into the net to find useful info, webdivers or netdivers.
Leech my seed!
… im sorry, rofl
These are mostly joke suggestions, but:
NaNs
nulls
voids
unhandled exceptions
… common theme here is the math/programming joke, but many of them also capture elements of anarchism, or can be interpreted as adopting a self-referential moniker which mocking the systems anarchists critique.
… probably it is a bit of a reach, but a good number of people refer to black cats as ‘voids’ these days, and … pretty decent history of angry black cats as symbols of anarchism.
You could also maybe l33tsp33k them up a bit?
Use ‘z’ instead of ‘s’ to pluralize?
Kenshi.
If you can get past the kind of… weird control scheme…
The game is basically a single player mmorpg.
You start off as an absolute weakling, and there is no … scaling, the way most other rpgs either generally have certain levelled enemies in certain areas, that you progress through linearly or unlock sequentially, or just an outright whole world spanning dynamic level matching kind of system.
You can be battling a small beast… and then a herd of very, very much more dangerous beasts, or slavers, will just happen to pass by, and royally fuck up your day.
Every character in the game, including you, plays by the same rules.
All major NPCs can be killed, the game is also full of varying factions with varying alignments towars other factions, and they will treat your character differently based on your race, the kinds of actio s you do, your reputation with other factions.
The storytelling is … a sandbox/emergent approach. Not in the sense of ‘there are no story lines or quests’… but in the sense of… a whole lot of stuff is out there, but you have to self direct yourself to go out and find it, or randomly encounter it.
Also, you can gain allies, make your own faction, and control a small army… and you can even build your own settlement, and economically interact with the rest of the world.
… Its… kind of hard to describe.
There really aren’t any other games quite like Kenshi.
Its got a good sized modding scene, and it incorperates at least some elemenrs of… every game you mentioned.
If you use a mod to up your max follower/faction member count… you can basically play the game as an RTS (with pause). Build a settlement, recruit followers (or enslave them), arm them, fees them, train them up, and go take over a city if you want.
… Or play basically solo, just you and your bonedog, maybe as a bounty hunter for hire, or a hashish smuggler, or get a pack animal and run a trade caravan.
I mourn for the leopards.
Their digestive systems were not designed to digest LiON batteries =(
… I am just trying to ‘yes, and!’ this.
I think its awesome that someone modded a Switch this hard, I think its awesome the person I replied to loves their modded handhelds, and I am just sharing my own tales of modding and tinkering with the Deck to show what you can do with it as well, and how I angle my goals of modding a bit differently than the person I’m replying to, so its a better fit for me.
I did not at any point state that their approach to modding is any kind of wrong or inferior.
You can tweak and (hard and soft) mod a Steam Deck as well.
… Your starting point is just more powerful hardware, and a much more permissive software system that basically begs you to do whatever you want to it, compared to a Switch.
I get that this level of modding if a Switch is an accomplishment, because it is more challenging… that the modding itself is what is enjoyable for many people.
But many other people enjoy a different proportion of ‘tinkering’ to ‘actually using it’. Or different kinds of tinkering.
Like… I have an OLED Deck. For me, running RPCS3 is… well, I could either dl the flatpak of it and configure it myself, or let Emu/RetroDeck take care of that, or switch over from SteamOS 3 to Bazzite, set up a distrobox instance of Fedora (what Bazzite is built off of), then just literally download all the source code and required libraries… and completely compile the entire emulator myself, on the Steam Deck itself.
I actually did this with O3DE and Godot a few times… a bit buggy, but hey, its a fun way for me to get more familiar with just… how compiling works, as well as the Fedora ecosystem… most of my previous experience with compiling/development is within Debian based distros.
You can literally develop a game, in Godot, or Unity, or many 2D only/mostly FOSS engines… on a Steam Deck.
As far as hard modding?
A year (or two?) back now… somebody figured out that you can actually take the SSD out of a Steam Deck, run the OS from the microSD card… add an adapter to the SSD slot, and then connect that to a full, PC grade eGPU with its own power supply… and this requires you to actually physically cut out (or I guess remove the entire) a part of the back exterior housing.
But, if you can do all this, you now have basically a hyper charged Steam Deck with waaay more rendering power you can basically use as a decently powerful desktop PC…
But, this only works with Windows (running off of the microSD card), and your Deck is… no longer really portable, unless you consider detaching the eGPU and SSD adapter thingy, putting the SSD back in, and put a standard backplate back on the thing… as an acceptable level of portability, lol.
Less … nearly insane … degrees of hardware modding are things like swapping out the joycons with halleffect sticks, custom body shells (the translucent atomic purple n64 style ones are quite popular, and the translucence actually helps a bit with heat dissipation),
…custom colored button and dpads… sort of … skin like wraps for the touchpads, or whole bodyshell… semi squishy grip style wraps that can help if you have larger, or injured hands/wrists…
…oh right, the LCD variants have some fairly popular entire screen replacements that give you a higher resolution than the native screen… not sure if anything like that exists for the OLED variants yet.
Hey, you know what?
You’re right.
This study focuses pretty much entirely on forced marriage as a punishment for men/boys who fail to live up to hypermasculine standards.
I misread it.
… It is nearly midnight, and I lost my glasses years ago now.
Doing this whole convo on a cheap phone I bought at a gas station years ago now, many states away.
Homelessness is not fun.
Either way, yep, my bad, I did not represent this study accurately, apologies.
Maybe tomorrow I’ll try to find a study that actually attempts to even document the male propensity to… act physically, and violently, on behalf of someone they care about, as compared to women…
But frankly, I am both baffled by how difficult it is to find like, statistically valid, large sample studies on this, as well as being baffled by your incredulity to the validity of this concept.
I… guess maybe a lookup of man on man v man on women v women on women assault and battery and murder statistics… if they all actually include some kind of ‘why did this occur’ in the records… could verify or falsify this… but it seems like I would literally have to do such a meta analysis myself.
That… or it is midnight and I am too tired to figure out how to search for such a study properly.
Either way, the… entire ingrained, toxic masculinity/patriarchy paradigm… men being both socially expected to, and being generally physically more naturally predisopsed to do acts of physical violence, often to uphold the honor of, of avenge an insult to a friend or lover…
This concept is so widely ingrained in nearly all cultures, through nearly all history… and is easily visible if one ever just… goes to a moderately busy bar or other social event with a good mix of men and women…
That I am incredulous at your incredulity of this being a phenomenon that happens, that a guy will insult another guy’s girlfriend, and this will cause a fight between the two men.
I understand your desire for actual empirical numbers to work with, but I do no comprehend how you can doubt that… this is a common thing that happens quite often, it is a huge part of patriarchy and toxic masculinity itseld.
Anyway… I’m off to bed now.
I am not looking for validation from you, as it is obvious from the start you aren’t interested in empathizing with a man, please stop talking to me like you just finished your BA in Psych or Social Work and are talking to a troubled teen.
You are intentionally playing dumb and trying to psychoanalyze me, to avoid addressing the actual totality of what I have said.
This is disrespectful.
It is a fairly basic and well understood fact that men tend to value respect and perceptions of being respected significantly more than women, on average.
…
I said what I said as a direct response to your response, to being asked:
‘What are men supposed to do with this besides feel bad?’
Your response was essentially:
Men shouldn’t feel bad about this.
and
Be an ally to women.
…
Ok, so…
For the first part, you are just outright denying men the capacity or right to … feel a certain way, express emotions about an experience they had.
This is fundamentally at odds with the conception of tearing down the enforced gender normativity of patriarchy, a huge element of which is men stuffing down their emotions, being told when and how and what they’re allowed to have emotions about, which is generally: suck it up buttercup, your feelings don’t matter, your emotions are not valid.
You are directly mandating all men abide by this rule.
You are directly enforcing the patriarchy, toxic masculinity.
…
For the second part,
I’ve been an ally to women (and many others) for 20 years.
Call that my sense of honor.
So have many other men.
I gave you an anecdote, a case study of one, my lived experience of how that worked out for me.
It didn’t work for me personally, and it isn’t working at a broader societal scale either.
The ‘gender wars’ are intsensifying, male incel edgelord culture got a fascist kleptocracy elected to run the US government, more and more marriages are failing and more and more young adults have never had a serious relationship of any kind, nor even a sexual partner… and all of this is fueling a … ‘return to the Handmaid’s tale’ wave of politics and policies that massively infringe upon the rights of women.
Your strategy is not working.
It is not producing an inclusive, more understanding, more empathetic, more tolerant or more patient culture.
It is producing the opposite.
…
‘Blame all men’ is your message, your strategy, distilled into a slogan. Be wary of all of them, all the time, you never know which one could hurt you.
A more sound strategy would not alienate allies, it would be more specific, targeted, with actually useful heuristics or rules that can be practically applied so as to actually be able to discern the difference between likely ally and likely foe.
What needs to be happening is the development of a constructive dialogue… not a hardening and intensifying of recalcitrance.
… Unless your goal actually is to escalate tensions.
Sorry, got that whole Anarchist thing going on, a system’s purpose is what it ultimately does, not what it claims to do.
Here’s a study.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0886260521997928
Its about ‘Honor Based Violence’ as it pertains to males being involved in violence against other males, when the inciting incident is a woman’s honor being insulted.
Also how forced marriages harm and are used to punish non gender conforming males in hyperpatriarchichal societies.
… The study begins by basically saying that uh, no one really bothers to study this within a feminist framework, almost all existing research is geared toward how women are harmed.
What I’d also recommend is being an ally to women in your life already. If women felt more male allyship during the inside/day, then maybe they’d be less fearful of men outside/at night.
Been doing that for about two decades now.
I’ve gotten guys slipping roofies in girls drinks thrown outta bars.
Gotten in many verbal arguments protecting LGBTQ folks against bigots, a few came to blows.
Much more than that as well, all the worldview of an anarchist that fundamentally believes any system, at any level of society, that perpetuates injustice is itself unjust, no matter how it claims to work, worked for nonprofits helping the homeless… particularily women domestic abuse survirors…
… Doesn’t matter, I am a white male, dress fairly tradtionally cishetmale most of the time, and I am now very, very used to being prejudged as potentially violent, getting insults thrown at me criticizing a worldview I don’t have.
Even more ironic in that I’ve actually been domestically abused (physically assaulted, if that isn’t clear) by a former female partner…
Wasn’t … part of tearing down the patriarchy… supposed to include encouraging men to be ok with being more vulnerable, being ok with crying, not being judged for expressing buried emotions, in a a non threatening manner?
…
Has anyone ever said to you, or have you ever said…
Wow, I didn’t realize what I was saying, the way I was saying it, was hurtful to you… I’ll try to be more conscious of how my actions affect those around me, in the future?
… And really, truly, mean it?
… Is… is that seriously … the origin of this phrase?
That does… at least make a basic level of sense…
Utterly tangential, but:
… wtf is the origin of the ‘waiting for the shoe to drop’ phrase … to indicate waiting for a twist in a plot, or a secret to be revealed, an impactful complication to be explained?
How… what is the metaphor here?
???
Holy shit that was fast, good lord.
Fellow Autist here:
We are being lumped in.
I can’t tell you the number of times I have gotten into arguments to defend someone’s … non conformity to societally standard gender norms, societally standard sexual preferences, societally standard cisness (?), against some MAGA hat wearing dudebro…
Only for that very person, who was present with me, as I defended them verbally against some asshole, in person…
To then, some months or weeks later, literally scream at me when something completely unrelated to any of that upset them…
… and they throw every single rhetorical device and phrase at me that they throw at actual male chauvanists, and also simultaneously attempt to deride my insufficient amount of stereotypical macho manliness.
And this wasn’t a single person doing this.
It has been multiple people, many times, all self described leftists or liberals who all just immediately revert to all the insults they’d hurl at an avowed white neonazi.
Oh well, I guess I am at least used to constantly being misunderstood and shunned from society because of an inherent way that I am different from most people that I have no ability to fundamentally change.
intense deadpan stare to emphasize the galactic levels of irony
If red touches black, you’re ok, Jack.
If red touches yellow, you’re a dead fellow.
This aphorism only works in North America, but it is a pretty reliable way to determine the difference between a coral snake… and a milk snake, also many other kinds of similar looking, non venomous snakes.
You may note that the milk snake has a bit more of a defined neck, head vs body seperation, than the venomous coral snake… which … would mean if you followed your rule, you may end up a dead fellow.
…
Now… many, venomous snakes make some kind of an alert sound, a hiss or rattle or someother bodily mechanism of saying ‘back the fuck up’.
But not all of them.
… and a great many venomous snakes… well they hide in the shrubbery and tall grasses, meaning you can easily accidentally come upon one if you’re moving through brushland, or a wetland…
You’re right that you should never intentionally sneak up on a snake… but… it is usually more like accidentally happen to be too close to one, hear the alert sound, waaay too close to be comfortable… and then you fucking freeze, try to figure out where exactly it is by your ears alone, and then very, very slowly back away untill you can’t hear the rattle anymore.
At least thats what I did when that happened to me, and I lived, to insufferably recount the tale as I am now, lol.
There’s… only one kind of rattlesnake in Eastern Washington state.
And it is venomous.
Say hello to my missed connection:
But hey, your ‘does it have a neck’ rule works for this one!
Too bad I never saw it, at all… its got pretty good camoflauge for the one to two feet tall grasses and shrubs it resides in.
Snake bites are of course, overall, a very uncommon thing for most people to be worried about… but if you are regularly involved in some kind of outdoor activity, or just kinda live out in the sticks, or are renting an AirBnB out there… you should probably familiarize yourself with the local wildlife.
…
As a final note, I am not any kind of snake expert at all.
But I do know that if you are, then the actual word for that is… Herpetologist. Expert in Herpetology.
Consult your local Herpetologist before you derp around in the badlands, lol.
…
EDIT: Final addendum: Female snakes often tend be considerably more pissy, apt to warn and stike, when they are in heat.
… And why didn’t Bethesda do this with the Skyblivion team?
Why didn’t they offer to at least pay them temporarily as contracted consultants?
Because management is full of themselves and maniacally, socio/psychopathically profit driven.
You can’t say they weren’t aware of the Skyblivion project, they literally coordinated a publicized action with them as part of their release schedule.
…
Game dev in particular, and even software dev generally, in America, at least… is absolutely chalk full of situations where one person or team or whatever’s work is either stolen, or fought over, or someone claims credit for a whole bunch of stuff they didn’t actually contribute nearly anything to, or make a whole big show of some streamlining effort that actually just cripples or eliminates the proverbial one dinky jenga block from the xkcd comic, and then all the blame for a whole bunch of other idiots’ plans, who never even consulted with the jenga block maintainer, well that guy or gal gets utterly blamed for all of it.
As well as of course all the NDAs and IP type bullshit where nothing even resembling what you did as a contractor or for another company can be used elsewhere, and become massively succesful, without a massive legal and financial threat.
… The actual devs, yes, did their work most likely without ‘lol lets fuck over these upstarts’ in mind.
That was in the mind of upper management and c suite though, guaranteed.
They don’t talk about that infront of the servants, I mean employees, I mean, who cares really, we’ll drive them nuts with crunch OT and then lay them off anyway, gaslighting them for the entire development cycle that that won’t happen.
…
Your instinct as a senior dev to reach out comes from a reasonable and good place.
But upper management and c suite is concerned with maximizing profit and business strategy, and in game dev, these folks have a long, stories history of routinely being as ruthless, cutthroat, duplicitous as possible.
It is warfare to them.
…
And I am not just pulling my credential check out of my ass here as some kind of gotcha style rhetoric, I also have worked in game dev, in software dev, in db admin and data analyst roles, for large corporations.
Though I do truly appreciate that you actually have the relevant credentials, and are talking from your own actually relevant experience, so I want to thank you for that, for actually having the conversation.
My experience has been almost entirely upper managers and VPs and the Board consistently doing the exact opposite of what actual developers suggest, request, or warn about, and then just slyly or sometimes quite brashly blame everyone else for causing the fuckups they were warned their plans would cause.
They think they are Gods and everyone else is a contemptible, digusting, unfortunately unavoidable part of doing business… and if a truly royal fuckup happens, they’ll turn on the people that built the corporate ladder they climbed without even a blink.