I wonder what is the motive here.

Oh, didn’t notice that the title says love or hate.

So I hate time sinks, but I love roguelikes/roguelites that have well done metaprogression and also allow you to have fun with ridiculous overpowered builds.

Ubisoft is the worst offender!

There’s a special level of hell for people that do that!

Time sinks in MMOs at least give you something to show off to other players. Doing this stuff in single player is the worst.

I suppose some games could be an acquired taste, but usually the need to invest time before you can have any fun is just bad game design.

Any sort of not respecting the player’s time: grind, making the player do the computer’s job (e.g., not having an auto-sort button for the inventory), time sinks, unskippable cutscenes, slow walking etc.

/me remembers playing some pretty cool text games there, also trout slapping.

This is NOT how you use text-shadow! 🤮