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  • You’re missing the forest through the trees if your take is that anyone is directly comparing the severity of these two issues. The point is that any instance owner that doesn’t have the proper framework in place to mount a legal argument or defense is in a highly vulnerable position regardless of the content.

    Being in the right doesn’t matter if you can’t afford the price tag associated with proving it. Just responding to a subpoena or a lawsuit has a non-zero cost associated with it.









  • I 100% agree with your assessment regarding relative level of risk. On the other hand, knowing LW is hosted in Finland by a German provider does multiply their risk solely by virtue of geography.

    Very few instances have proper resources for general moderation never mind sorting out the “hard questions”.

    The troll that started this shitshow knew exactly what they were doing. Once the admins were “alerted” they had to act in order maintain “safe harbor” provisions afforded to communications carriers and platforms. While I’m most familiar with the US DCMA, similar legislation and provisions exist in the EU and other locales. Problem is, remote community moderation is somewhat hit or miss right now due to shortcomings in the platform itself. That’s if you even have the resources to look through everything and make a “reasonable” determination on a post by post or comment by comment basis. While I don’t agree with the decision to block these communities I do see how the admins may have reached the conclusion that to do so was their only viable choice, at the moment.



  • Are you fully versed on all global laws that directly or indirectly target piracy and copyright infringement? Particularly the really murky ones regarding “facilitating infringement”.

    I’m not.

    Reddit has a very large, well paid legal team on retainer and the cost of litigation is factored in to their business model. Reddit prevailed in this case and likely spent at least a year of LW’s operating costs doing so.

    It doesn’t matter whether you’re right, it’s a matter of being able to afford to prove you’re right.


  • This is an inaccurate statement. Looking just at US law (there’s plenty of others), CDN’s that reside or operate within the US are required to comply with DMCA takedowns and any other legal requests made of them. Failure to do so jeopardizes their protection under Section 230 of the DCMA. They 100% can be held civilly and criminally liable for what’s in their cache. The US provides a pass, by law, as long as they maintain due diligence.

    That’s actually very similar to what this story about Reddit was all about. The film studios were trying to build a case to have RCN stripped of their S230 protections.