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  • Been using Zoho with multiple domains for many years. I have a business account and a personal account (and an admin account) in Zoho fed from maybe ten domains. DNS on Google cloud.

    Zoho is almost never down - can’t remember the last time - but they do tend to tinker stupidly occasionally. Logging in to the web is page after page of stupid questions - ok it’s three but they’re pushing their authentication app I don’t ever want. There’s PassKey but it doesn’t understand Linux/Bitwarden AFAICT. I use 2fa with Bitwarden. Documentation is good but there can be multiple pages on the same subject sometimes.

    Client mobile app is great. Admin mobile app is crap. Costs c. £60 a year which I think is good value given the ability to white page, (excessive) filters and automation*, mailing lists etc. Finding where you set an email address up is a bastard so take notes but they are eager to help if you can’t find it.

    I usually get pissed off with suppliers after a couple years of being jerked around. I’ve been with Zoho email for an easy decade maybe one and a half. It was definitely this century … but … !

    I’m very privacy minded, at least one of the domains is a addy.io proxy, but never seen any indication that my/client data is being sold. Spam malware is very tight and you can admin that to within an inch of its life in miriad of ways.

    Comes with all the bells and whistles you’d expect on the client end and on the server end. IMAP POP3 sure but I use the Zoho mobile client and web for all the features (tagging, priority etc) that Thunderbird won’t grok.

    Zoho had a deserved poor rep many years ago for going up and down like a tart’s drawers but it’s been nothing but up that I’ve noticed in the last 5 years.

    I have no affiliation with any company mentioned.

    I hosted my first email server in c.1996 on 14kbps before email admin became a full time job. I feel your pain.

    • I have the usual delay (real) send on my business account and a couple of delete after X days triggered by my addy.io . Logic can mix AND and OR with parentheses without a limit I have hit.

  • deadcatbounce@reddthat.comtoSelfhosted@lemmy.worldBest phone sync
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    If you’re using Obsidian for free then maybe try the built-in link which you’ll find in the built-in options I think. It’s a cost option but cheap. I think it eliminates the problems I’m having (below). I’m stubborn.

    I’m not having problem with Syncthing, bar dealing with the stupid attempts to deal with deleted files that Android leaves laying around. I have .stignore files with .trashed-* and .trash/ entries on the Linux machine. Still having problems with _ed directories though and Syncthing conflict files when the sync isn’t fast enough when I switch between the two.

    Sometimes it takes Syncthing a while to work out the best route between the two nodes. Sometimes days. It used to send my packets to the internet before letting them back into the local network. Eventually it found a more direct route between them. I’m not sure but I think it has something to do with local IPv6; I’m talking out of my ass though.

    I’m not affiliated to Syncthing or Obsidian besides being a happy user.

    I have decent battery life on my Pixel 7 Pro. I have the respect battery save setting on so syncing stops at 20% or so I think.









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    I hosted my email on a home Exchange server last century before finally settling on Zoho so can sympathise!

    I should also say that my setup is backed with Google cloud DNS.

    I can’t honestly say that I’ve had any problems with Zoho collecting/sending email for years. It’s the general admin side that causes consternation - adding a domain, forwarding, lists, where the f I set up an email address!

    Hosting domain email for other customers is really easy too should the need arise.


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    Zoho mail has a domain hosting platform for email. About £60 pa in dollars for my setup. Pricing varies on the number of accounts not the number if domains. I have two accounts, personal and business, and a control admin account. The domains I host vary according to the businesses I run. I funnel each domains email to one of the two accounts and reply with the appropriate domain easily. Personal email is masked with Addy.io mostly.

    They deal with the email very well. There was a time that they really didn’t and the system went up and down like a tarts knickers.

    The front end is ok. They play with it a lot and there are many screens pushing some shit or other before you actually are allowed to get to the inbox. The inbox setup is excellent with all the expected functionality and toys and many toys appearing monthly.

    Typical of Indian continent companies, as a Brit who has spent much of his life frustrated on the phone to “Dave” from Mumbai with a really really thick accent, Zoho don’t really seem to understand concepts properly, so their passkeys setup doesn’t work with Bitwarden. TOTP 2FA cannot be just pasted in (from Bitwarden again) because they’ve tried to be flash with the input field and one has to click on a specific place first. The support team try really hard, but their ability to grasp the problem and fix it is lacking before some other buzzword catches marketing’s attention and they add yet another screen to click through or subvert the problem somewhere else. Their help knowledge base is enormous, well documented but unorganized and they don’t archive stuff that has been superceded, so be careful.

    That said I’ve been using them for well over a decade and have no plans to change.

    Running your own mail server ceased to be a hobby thing when RBLs came in. Use a provider with the resources to do the hard/cumbersome stuff.

    I’d give Zoho mail an easy 7/10. And it’s cheap. Zoho invoice is great too.


  • Don’t follow. Help me out someone please.

    The net runs on numbers. The numbers have to be translated into/from the DNS name to the numbers.

    Nominating a DNS name as internal is doesn’t change the fact that we still have to, at some stage, find the (local) network mask that that corresponds to.

    What am I missing?

    Update: I’m not sure I formed my question correctly because I’m none the wiser. That’s my fault, I think.




  • That’s rather beautifully put and extra marks for p-h-t! 😁😜

    I learned low level stuff to give prices to traders before the trading interval ended. I’m serious. Our four man hedge fund was under the wing of huge French bank. Pricing in the era was painful.

    Asked for a price in the era used to take minutes for derivatives; I was told much faster wasn’t possible; that’s a red rag to me. I had no choice but to get dirty and go low level again.

    The traders were old style barrow-boys, their like disappeared maybe a year or so after. Derivatives have a load of parameters that go with the actual price, “the Greeks”, and market traders easily remember sets of shopping lists and prices and quantities at the same time. They were a shoe-in before computers were actually useful on a trading floor.

    I learned to program on a 6502 RISC chip in Acorn Assembler. I liked it because BASIC was shit in the era (GOTO Fcuk My Life), like it got much better … 🤣😂 Knowing how programs work allows me to try to make it faster. These days I think know compilers are smarter than me.

    Rust appeals too for the time-travel aspect. I’d like to learn to write a threaded program. I would have loved to do that when back in the day, I always regretted the way it worked, but it was way beyond me 😭 .

    I wouldn’t mind looking at my old original killer pricing program, I knew it could be optimised then, but I just didn’t have the time or the skills to go that extra mile. I regret that bitterly. 😡

    If you get time, let me know of your (t)rust travels. Bon voyage.