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  • Look, I’m an atheist so I don’t believe in evil. That being said I’m not 13 so I also don’t have a hard-on for Ayn Rand to the point where I get enraged when other people talk about self interest.

    I never said anything about it being “inherently evil”. You’re putting words in my mouth. You’d realize that if you actually took some time to cool off.

    In the context of D&D, how self-interested a character is determines their moral alignment. It’s a loose description of a mechanic.

    No one is making claims about the real world.


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    9 months ago

    Listen. You need to go out and touch some grass. No one is making a moral argument here. We’re debating a game’s alignment system and how to understand it. In terms of the game’s systems, self-interest is evil. Devils are extremely self-interested and do nothing for the greater good or general welfare.



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    I disagree. Lawful or Chaotic describes ones adherence to rules; either those of society or their own moral code. Chaotic would describe one who does not adhere to any rules or guidelines; nothing is off limits except that which would violate their alignment on the Good-Evil axis. Neutral would mean that one would bend those rules to achieve a particular outcome. Lawful is going to stick to the book; they’re very conservative.




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    No. Their behavior is self interested. That’s Evil. Didn’t matter how they envision it or whether they have a personal code. If their personal code places the needs of others and the general welfare in a place of high importance then they are Good. Chaotic - Lawful merely describes the methods they’re willing to pursue to achieve those goals.




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    9 months ago

    C/N I’ve always read in was the person person who doesn’t care about the means or the ends, just that the result benefits me or my accomplices

    Neutrality is more like doing what it takes to achieve a cosmic state. It places no value on ones self or welfare of others. What you’re describing is Chaotic Good.

    Chaotic Neutral just means that there are no rules for how to achieve this state. One choice is as good as any other. The more rules, the more Lawful.

    C/E would be the sort that is exemplified by the social climbing boot licker

    This one might be right depending on how you envision this character. There are certain rules to high society and if their actions are constrained by any of them then they can’t be Chaotic. If they only have like… one rule then maybe they’re Neutral.