I didn’t know about these manuals. Awesome!

Also crashed here and I’m using Eternity.

I’m in the same boat.

Elden Ring, Helldivers 2, many games I’d get on Sony PS Store that I just get on Steam because I want to “own” the full game not just the offline part of it.

They could stop charging gamers a subscription to play the paid games (they “own”) online.

This could attract some customers that don’t want to deal with PC or don’t want to add fixed costs to their monthly or yearly bill.

Do you have more battery screenshots but with 48-96 hours of standby?

I wonder how much SoT you can fit if you don’t charge the phone every day.

I used to charge my P5 every 3 nights but lately I do it every 2 nights, sometimes every night.

That being said. If I open Google maps just a few times per day (not even starting navigation), the standby time goes down like crazy.

The overall battery life is pretty good. But the standby (when screen is off) is still taking like 1% per hour right?

I did 59.1% / 53,5~ hours.

I’m more a fan of 1% every 3 hours. Not 1% per hour. If Google managed to do something in the OS to guarantee that it would be amazing. (Note: always considering power hungry stuff like AOD off).

Also, I recommend checking this from 100% and only after reaching 1%. I’ve recently seen my Pixel 5 draining 1% overnight (like going from 40% to 39% in 7 hours), and that’s a lie in my experience it never does this little. I stopped paying attention to overnight standby drain after seeing this. So to be more accurate it is better to account for the full cycle (99%+ usage).

I’ll definitely give it a shot. At least to the ones I have at home (the one from steam that uses my desktop and the one from the PS5).

I mean I didn’t mean it to be funny…so apologies if you took it as a bad joke.

But basically I just meant that I prefer (for gaming) to run the game locally than on a cloud. I barely tried remote gaming. I tried on WLAN the one from steam but only for 5 minutes. Then I tried PS Remote play last week streaming FF16 (just for testing) to my steam deck running W11 but at the home I was there was not enough bandwidth because there was a delay while moving the camera.

I usually play at 144Hz 1440p (on PC) and also at 2160p 60Hz (TV, although the PS5 gives crappy 30 FPS in many heavy games).

I also play some online games like Warzone with some friends. So if the experience of cloud gaming works for games like these then of course I’d be more happy with it.

I mean it sucks for offline situations or for actions that need very good latency.

But the phone’s battery would be happier if the processing is not done locally.

For some things I prefer to do the stuff locally, for other things on the cloud.

Some cloud Vs local examples I’m thinking about:

1. For example (example not related to the Pixel) if I’m generating an image with stable diffusion at home I prefer to use my RX 6800 on my private local Linux rather than a cloud computer with a subscription. But if I had to do the same on a mobile phone with tiny processing power and battery capacity I’d prefer to do it on the cloud.

2. (Another non AI example): for gaming, I prefer to run things natively. At least until it is possible to stream a game without added latency. Obviously I don’t play games on a phone.

3. Another example (Google photos): I would prefer to connect Google photos to a local NAS server at home, and “own the storage on premise” and then pay a lower fee to Google photos for the extra services it brings. Browsing, face and objects recognition, etc. But this is not an option. With this I would be able invest on my own storage, even if I had dozens of gigabytes in 4K60FPS videos.

If it exceeds your expectation right now, then it should last 8 years with a battery replacement when the battery health goes bad. Because in my experience pixels never get worse than they were on day 1 over the years (except for the battery health).

If it’s below your expectation, you are going to want to sell it in 1 or 2 years looking for that thing you are lacking at the moment.

Whatever they do I hope it doesn’t increase standby battery drain.

I hope they keep this trend of releasing android updates with fixes / polish more than new functionalities. Especially the functionalities that put extra background services like when they released digital wellbeing.

In the battery menu It would have been nice if they added the standby time next to the screen on time. “Standby time since last full charge” something like that. Now you need to calculate it and it sucks.

Pixel 5 here:

• 20-30% more battery life than the P5 when it was new (my P5 battery life is still very good like 90%-95% of when it was new). But I don’t want to have the excellent battery life I had in 2020. I want something better.
• Lower price than the P8 (so I’ll wait for a discount if I upgrade to that one).
• Better ambient light sensor in low light. Not the crap we have in the P5.

The rest (more years of updates. Than just 3 years) is already confirmed. A smaller size would be nicer. But the P8 size seems good.

In general I like the P8. But I’m still enjoying the P5 so I’m not hurried.

I haven’t checked all the models. But P8 128GB has almost the same price before applying taxes. (Around 660€).

So the only reason it is more expensive in € is because of E.U. VAT and because here the price is final while in US the price is before taxes (some states do not have a VAT tax there).

In short. VAT is the main difference. At least for this model.

Well with the spare parts available in ifixit I can’t complain. Last year I got the battery replacement kit for my previous Pixel 4 from the ifixit European store and all went good, quick and affordable.

It’s a shame the P4 doesn’t receive more official updates though.

I hope they don’t split OS updates from Security updates.

Pixel 5: I don’t know if it’s better than android 11. But android 13 in the last months was running a bit worse than 14 for me.

Standby battery drain is unstable for me though. 1 night got 1% drop in 7 hours. Most nights much more.

So in the end I have to test 100% to 1% to get something more accurate.

Accubattery last full cycle 100% to 1% reported screen on 12.2%/h screen off 0.8%/h (please note that some of my user apps like Instagram/tiktok are disabled in background. But others like WhatsApp are always running and I know that whatsapp is a festival of partial wakelocks).

Try this tip: grab a scotch tape, cut it until it is more or less like a circle and paste it over the (clean) sensor.

I did this like 2 years ago and improved the feedback. It’s still going strong, the scotch tape never came out. I think it never fails for me.

The P5 fingerprint? I love it! I’m actually scared of trying the new ones under the screen. (Everything they put under the screen on the Pixel 5 is a downgrade versus the previous pixels for me).

If I end up upgrading from P5. I’ll probably do it later from Amazon at reduced price.

P5 honestly doesn’t feel old at all for me.