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Cake day: June 16th, 2023

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  • But they did.

    (I’m on mobile so my formatting is meh)

    They put his art in, only when called out did they remove it.

    Once removed, they did nothing to prevent it being added back.

    As for them selling the product, or not, at this point, they still used the output of his labor to build their product.

    That’s the thing, everyone trying to justify why it’s okay for these companies to do it keep leaning on semantics, legal definitions or “well, back during the industrial revolution…” to try and get around the fact that what these companies are doing is unethical. They’re taking someone else’s labor, without compensation or consent.


  • No, I’m not using it incorrectly, I’m just not concerned with the legal definition as I’m not a lawyer or anyone tied up in this mess.

    If you do a thing, and it takes time and skill to do it, then someone copies it, they stole your labor.

    Saying they “copied his style”, the style he spent a lifetime crafting, then trying to say they didn’t benefit, at no cost, to the labor he put into crafting that style because “well actually, the law says…” is a bad argument as it tries to minimize what they did.

    If their product could not exist without his labor, and they did not pay him for that labor, they stole his labor.

    For, like, the fourth time in this thread: were this ethical, they would have asked for permission, they didn’t.












  • Yes, because “imitate” and “copy” are different things when stealing from someone.

    I do understand how it works, the “overfitting” was just laying clear what it does. It copies but tries to sample things in a way that won’t look like clear copies. It had no creativity, it is trying to find new ways of making copies.

    If any of this was ethical, the companies doing it would have just asked for permission. That they didn’t says a everything you need to know.

    I don’t usually have these kinds discussions anymore, I got tired of conversations like this back in 2016, when it became clear that people will go to the ends of the earth to justify unethical behavior as long as the people being hurt by it are people they don’t care about.