Prethoryn Overmind

I have passed this message along. We are now doing Biscuit’s bidding.

Ah yes, another prime example that demonstrates that Lemmy is no different than Reddit. Everyone thinks they are a professional online.

Nothing sensitive should ever lack encryption especially in the hands of a third party company managing your data claiming you are safe and your privacy is protected.

No one is invincible and it’s okay to criticize the apps we hold to high regards. If your are pissed people are shitting on Signal you should be pissed Signal gave people a reason to shit on them.

Preps sophon on another planet

Dude, you are going to break this person’s heart. Keep this knowledge to yourself.

The website is trash can someone summarize?

So if I am seeing this I am good?

“(on Reddit (/comments/). yuck!)”

Guys, we fucking get it. You hate mainstream apps like reddit but the solutions aren’t on Lemmy until someone finds them elsewhere like reddit.

Do we really need to emphasize our hate for something every damn time we make a post. Thanks for the solution but why couldn’t you have just posted the solution.

God I hate Lemmy, they want a bigger user base to stay away from content controlled by big corps and to move to federated content but will shove their ideals on the community every time and that is what keeps pushing people wanting to stay here away. We don’t need to hear about FOSS and Linux every time. And we get it. We hate reddit that is why the user base moved here.

EDIT: God I love Lemmy.

Corporatism my friend.

The issue is Qualcomm who makes the majority of SoCs for phones. Qualcomm, if I am not mistaken controls the support of the phone because the phone uses their chip.

Google is now pulling an Apple move and using their own Silicon (Samsung’s Silicone) to bypass using Qualcomm.

Using a Pixel 7 Pro right now. I used to sell phones for Verizon. I still have connections there and got to hold one in person. I love the look and feel of the Pixel Fold. Hands down the best fold because of its design form factor being wider rather than taller.

I would wait one or two more generations for better battery life though.

Also necessary there are very few but apparently some stories that talk about people being hacked because they sent their Android device off for repair or replacement. If ends up in a malicious person’s hands and gets used against them some how some way.

“Why do you guys simply believe things should get better?”

That is how I read this. More power, more efficiency, better tech is not a bad thing to want.

Just because you want to hold on to a 5 year old phone doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t at least want to see efficiency in our pockets get better for the value we spend on them.

Imagine if someone said, I have dial up internet. Why are you guys constantly wanting faster Internet speeds.

It’s okay to want things to get better. You should not have the mentality of, “it’s just good enough.”

Well, when Google jumps in the wagon and makes Android 14 support eSIM and Apple being one of the largest companies also does it. I would imagine others will as well. This kind of thing forces your carrier to finally get with the program and start supporting it that being said. There should be more concern that a phone manufacturer and telecom company aren’t changing for the future and that future makes your life more secure.

When it comes to this change I have personally not seen a valid point. The argument is being compared to the loss of battery swapping. These are not comparable in anyway is the issue. If you want to argue that you should be able to swap batteries in phones then I agree you should be able to.

However, eSIM versus physical SIM is an actual security advantage and a good change and the methods we will use to transfer them is all that will be different. The podcast transcript above is a good source for understanding why this is fundamentally different. Losing the ability to swap a battery sucks. However, there will be ways to swap a SIM while still keeping the end user safe and honestly even safer and it doesn’t change how a SIM functions for your use of the phone. You could still swap a battery and an eSIM would literally not make a difference. The point is that you are not losing anything with no physical SIM your freedom to what you want with your phone hasn’t changed in the same way that you can’t replace your own battery because and eSIM can’t be stolen or lost the same way a physical SIM.

I think Lemmy users are absolutely far more biased than they think and I have leaned in the few months I have been here that often times they just stick their way of thinking to something without even asking why this kind of change could be a good thing.

I have also found that Lemmy users don’t know shit about security and privacy like they think they do. Lemmy as an app being the biggest example.

What is being forced here? SIM cards store absolutely no information these days except your phone number?

eSIM has been supported on Pixel and iPhone for years and security wise it is a win: https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/ give that a listen.

Additionally, there is support to swap eSIM to other devices Apple has implemented a method and Google is working to do so. Telecom compnaies in the US are already capable of doing so as well: https://www.androidpolice.com/android-14-dual-sim/

What choice did this actually take from you? You either want a phone number or you don’t? You either want that number on a device or you don’t? The choice still exist here. This post has solidified to me that Lemmy users literally know absolutely nothing about security and let bias interfere with educating themselves on this kind of thing.

You realize there are multiple variants of devices? Chances are there will be a universal or international version of the Pixel 8 on top of that this forces your carrier to support it which is a win because more choice.

Additionally, the Pixel 8 and Android 14 carry support for dual eSIM: https://www.androidpolice.com/android-14-dual-sim/

You take the phone you get to Verizon before you send your trade out. You say, give me a SIM for a phone that doesn’t support it or switch my number to this phone via an eSIM.

Most companies send you the new phone first and you have time to send the trade-in after the fact for a set amount of days. If you do this from Verizon to Verizon as another example the new phone should activate with an eSIM out of the box and move your number. If not, Google is working on a tool to fix that:https://www.droid-life.com/2023/08/22/first-look-at-androids-native-esim-transfer-tool/

This is not any offense to you as your questions are relevant and reasonable, but this post has proved my point that Lemmy users know jack shit about security and why this is a good change. If you want learn there is a good podcast that elaborates on the issue with current physical SIM standards: https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/

Nah, the average consumer is kind of over it.

Oh, look more Lemmy users not understanding security, again. All because they hate big Apple and change because Apple did something is bad.

I am convinced Lemmy users are more prone to let their bias get in the way of actually understanding the benefits of this change and the reason this is going away.

If you want to educate yourself.

https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/

If you want a summary because you don’t want to listen to a podcast or read the transcript of a podcast. There is a lot of theft occurring at the SIM card level in phones. This change is a bigger benefit than it is a negative. Is it annoying? Sure? Does it change how the phone functions? No.

Most phones can’t dual SIM, and phones that do typically have issues. I am convinced this will quite literally not affect any of you, and if anything it protects the average consumer.

Pixel and iPhone have been doing eSIM for a while and I personally use a Google Fi number and First Net number. If you are wondering how the number transfer process will work then here is another article about how that is going to be handled: https://www.droid-life.com/2023/08/22/first-look-at-androids-native-esim-transfer-tool/

This means no one can just take your SIM card. They need to fully get into your phone. If you are worried about number transfer from telecom company to telecom company then you should know that is also already being handled and both Verizon and AT&T have implemented this change to their systems. You just transfer the number like normal and the systems generate an eSIM for you.

This is a win for security of your phone, you, and for your number.

Now you will just do it electronically. This really isn’t as big of a deal as I am seeing in the comments. You will just move them across devices. This already works on iPhones. When you move from an eSIM on a 13 to a 14 for example. It will be similar on Android. On top of that, security wise, this is an absolute win for the average consumer, albeit annoying for Lemmy users that can’t bother to learn a thing or two about why.

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-esim-transfer-3356508/

Here is a podcast if you want to know a little bit more about why this is happening: https://a.lemmy.world/lemmy.world/post/3584474

In short, hot swapping is a big deal right now and it is costing people a lot of money and a lot of trust in telecom as well.

More Lemmy users need to be like you.

Why are Lemmy users Assholes.