I am unbothered by this interaction.

My jimmies remain unruffled.

Did you get so emotionally invested into this discussion that you feel hurt?

Still not the original argument. But please, keep digging.

Your original statement was that by knowing someone, you have been hurt by them. I presume that requires some amount of timeline which is undefined (that’s not the point so I’ll move on).

That is literally what you said. Yet now, you’re not talking about hurt, you’re talking about friction, disagreement, as if that will, in all cases, cause hurt.

You’re qualifying your statements so much they’re saying something different than your original point. You’re moving the goal posts.

If I continue to argue with you, implying I accept that you’ve moved the goal posts and your point is still somehow valid, then it would be impossible for me to “win” in this discussion.

I refuse.

By moving the goal posts, I assert that you are unable to prove your absolute point that everyone has been hurt by the people that they know, so you are altering your statement to something more reasonable that is a more easily defensible position. You have given up your original point and you are trying to convince me that this new statement is equivalent to your original statement.

No thanks.

Have a good day.

Thanks for the social commentary jerkface.

I have my fair share of disagreements with everyone I know, the aforementioned conflict you have suggested.

The difference is that me, and the group of people I’ve cultivated as my friends, family, and partners, discuss things productively, rather than bicker and argue.

As a result, we reach productive outcomes that don’t trample everyone’s feelings.

I’m sorry that you do not have that kind of relationship in your life. If you did, you would recognize that conflict and disagreement do not need to end with harm to either party.

I strongly disagree with the assumption that every person you know, has hurt you in some way.

I know several people who have never caused me any harm. Whether I am/was in a relationship with them or not. And I can pretty much guarantee they feel the same way.

I’ve had relationships that fizzled out so thoroughly that both of us kind of forgot we were in a relationship at all and months later we caught up with eachother and we both liked at eachother and said, well, I guess we’re not a couple anymore… We stayed friends. Nobody got hurt.

Idk. There are ways to behave and act that prevent these kinds of things. Having high quality people in your life helps.

Don’t get me wrong, I know I’m incredibly fortunate to be in the position I’m in and not everyone can say the same. But the idea that it is impossible to know someone without being hurt by them, to me, is not the case. However unlikely, it is possible.

To be fair, the “other side” isn’t really any better.

I’ve kind of seen left/right as socialistic/capitalistic respectively. Personally, I’m bigger on social/community/common (for everyone) services, like universal healthcare, than I am for capitalism in general.

There absolutely cannot be consolidation of power, making any government more like an authoritarian regime, regardless of social/communal views or objectives, but at the same time, it is theoretically possible to have a healthy amount of socialism in a democracy. Many EU nations have struck a good balance of these things already, and my country, Canada, isn’t super far behind them. America is still stuck in cave-man, aggressive capitalism times.

As someone who has actually taken whole assed courses on economics… What economics?

Whether conservative or liberal, politicians don’t make economic decisions, they make political decisions.

I have yet to see any politician who consistently made, or even publicly recognised, the better economic decision.

Economically, a well trained, and healthy population is a good thing. So providing relief for the costs of being healthy through something like a healthcare program, is in everyone’s best interest. Ensuring that people can get the training they need to be the most efficient they can be, is in everyone’s best interest. These things are good for the economy.

Conservatives make it seem like they’re making choices that are good for the economy, and they certainly make statements that try to convince everyone that’s the case, but bluntly, they make capitalistic decisions. Decisions that help capitalists. If they can rob, steal, kill, or maim someone to bump profits, they’ll do it, and their friends in government will help them do it, and get protection for doing it.

They’re not interested in the economy, they’re interested in their pocketbook, and whatever make it fatter. Even if the cost is future economic downturn, they’ll do it if it bumps profits this quarter.

… Like firing an entire department to save on the wages of the people that they fired, when those people are still needed, and now you’ll need to spend more money to hire replacements for almost all of them, but this quarters numbers will look amazing, and the CEO, and his buddies in the c-suite will get their bonuses, and the shareholders will get a few dollars more per share in dividends this quarter.

They wouldn’t know good economics if they were surrounded by it. They can’t see that far.

Sorry, my brain isn’t happy about doing math right now; I won’t get into why.

Thank you for the correction. I will update my post now.

Not bi, and I was never in the gifted program.

But I found out I’m neurodivergent at 39, and it explains so much.

I hope everyone is doing well. Seems that my story echos many of yours.

A suprise to be sure, that people in countries with continual and consistent access to vaccines, where 90+ % of the population of the last 50+ years has been fully vaccinated, is where antivaxxers have sprouted up, while people in less developed countries with inconsistent access to vaccines and medical care, believe in vaccines, where most of their population in the last 50 years has struggled to get vaccines or gone unvaccinated and they’ve seen first hand the horrors of the diseases that vaccines prevent…

What a shocker.

Yes, but also no.

You can’t educate people who won’t listen, believe the information you give them, or learn.

Willful ignorance is extremely common. I work in tech and I have persistent memories of people refusing to learn the most basic shit to help themselves, or change their behavior because “their way” doesn’t work anymore, then insist I find a workaround so they can continue to do it whatever backwards way they’ve been doing it.

I once asked a user to open a folder on a shared drive on a server and I shit you not, they opened fucking word, went to open and browsed from there to the server.

That’s the only way that they knew to get to the fucking files.

People are fucking stupid, won’t learn, refuse to be taught, and want to remain as uneducated as they possibly can, knowing just enough to continue being employed.

Idiocracy being created in real time.

I just looked it up and the global cumulative deaths from COVID is around 7 million people.

“Only” 0.1% of the humans living on earth, died, so it’s not bad, right?

… And I’m very positive the data is confirmed deaths by COVID, so it’s likely a very low figure compared to how many people died from COVID, or died from other things that were complicated by COVID, or died by complications of COVID directly, or died because the hospitals and medical care systems were too overwhelmed by COVID patients to care for them.

I’d estimate that number is probably double if you took all of the associated deaths into account.

It’s very very likely that you know someone or are someone who lost someone to COVID. Yet these uneducated chucklefucks think they know better than PhD doctors, researchers, and scientists, that have been studying this shit their entire fucking lives, have qualifications up the ass, and who have dedicated years of their lives to even understanding what a virus is, nevermind any specific virus’ behavior. A nontrivial number of them have been working the problem longer than some of these fucks have been drawing back oxygen. Yet, they’re not to be believed because reasons.

These kinds of people can get fucked. I hope that they, and their dumbass offspring get a preventable disease and fucking croak, so the world can be less goddamned stupid.

I just thought it was relevant to the discussion.

Not arguing whether it’s good music.

The fact that these chucklefucks worship money is my point. They put money as more important than life itself.

That’s the one I was quoting. So they’re not wrong.

Bow down before the one you serve, you’re going to get what you deserve.

I’ve seen this before, it’s gold. I have yet to actually use any of this information. I can’t even find decent hoagie rolls in my local grocery shops… Nevermind assemble a sandwich with one. I’m no baker so, I’m unlikely to put together ingredients to make such a roll, nevermind have the materials or equipment, to do so.

I’m stuck at step 1.

Maybe some day I’ll try my hand at baking, or find a lovely bakery in a reasonable vicinity to my home that I can start making good sandwiches instead of meat inside of bread with cheese and some kind of sauce… Oh well.

Oh wow, imagine that.

They can get fucked with a rusty cactus.

But at least with Adobe, their support actually knows things, and there’s an admin console where I can see what’s happening with my team subscriptions.

They’re expensive as all fuck, but that’s not my problem. That’s a problem for the company.

As an IT person: Intuit products.

Their support sucks and unless it’s operating as designed, you basically can’t get any answer more specific than “call support” online, and when you do decide to call them, the IT guy can never get answers unless the account holder is on the line because they refuse to talk to anyone who isn’t on the account and they refuse to add the IT guy to the account.

Also, QuickBooks desktop is basically dead. There will be no 2025 version as far as I’m aware. They’re forcing everyone into QuickBooks online.

Also, their automated file doctor tools are basically useless, rebuilding a file has a good chance of breaking it, requiring intervention from the data services team.

They also seem to have no idea what automation is, and have little to no shits to give over making deployment and management any easier/simpler for the IT staff that needs to support their product.

Fuck. Intuit.