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  • The rules are written so the admins and mods can maintain their positions and feelings without having to explain themselves.

    There is no requirement that they must explain themselves. The beauty of the Fediverse is that if one doesn’t agree with an instance, then they don’t need to interact with it.


    Its an insistence that whatever they do is right because they own the place.

    It is their instance to run as they see fit. I make no attempt to force my opinions on them for how they should run their instance. I can only voice my personal opinions and challenge them to be accountable to theirs.






  • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOPtoPrivacy@lemmy.mlPSA: Git exposes timezone metadata
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    Any given time zone there are going to be millions if not billions of people.

    One more bit of identifying information is still one more bit of identifying information.


    Git also “leaks” your system username and hostname IIRC by default which might be your real name.

    This is only part of a fallback if a username and email is not provided [1].

    References
    1. Git. Reference Manual. git-commit. “COMMIT INFORMATION”. Accessed: 2024-08-31T23:30Z. https://git-scm.com/docs/git-commit#_commit_information.

      In case (some of) these environment variables are not set, the information is taken from the configuration items user.name and user.email, or, if not present, the environment variable EMAIL, or, if that is not set, system user name and the hostname used for outgoing mail (taken from /etc/mailname and falling back to the fully qualified hostname when that file does not exist).


    A fake name and email would pretty much be sufficient to make any “leaked” time zone information irrelevant.

    Perhaps only within the context where one is fine with being completely unidentifiable. But this doesn’t consider the circumstance where a user does want their username to be known, but simply don’t want it to be personally identifiable.


    UTC seems like it’s just “HEY LOOK AT ME! I’M TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING!”

    This is a fair argument. Ideally, imo, recording dates for commits would be an optional QoL setting rather than a mandatory one. Better yet, if Git simply recorded UTC by default, this would be much less of an issue overall.


    if you sleep like most people, could be defeated by doing an analysis of when the commits were made on average vs other folks from random repositories to find the average time of day and then reversing that information into a time zone.

    I mentioned this in my post.


    It’s better to be “Jimmy Robinson in Houston Texas” than “John Smith in UTC-0”

    That decision is contextually dependent.





  • Health-related information should ideally be from peer-reviewed, reproducible scientific studies.

    Note that even if a study is currently reproducible, it will only continue to be reproducible until it isn’t. There isn’t something fundamental that makes a specific scientific study objectively true or false — that isn’t how science works.


    When in doubt, a policy of “Do No Harm”, based on the Hippocratic Oath, is a good compass on what is okay to post.

    I understand that that’s likely well-intentioned, but, imo, it’s rather subjective — it’s more often a matter of relative perspective. That being said, it would be in your best interest to set as clear and precise definitions as you possibly can.


    Non-peer-reviewed studies by individuals are not considered safe for health matters.

    What does this statement mean? You are banning anyone from sharing anything that is not peer-reviewed…?


    We know some folks who are free speech absolutists may disagree with this stance

    That’s a bit of a stretch.




  • Seems like the main risk is of you don’t clean them very well and get a lot of plant matter encased in it. Doesn’t take much yew to make you sick.

    I’ve heard that one is only supposed to eat the newest/youngest growth on chicken of the woods (the portion along the edge) [1.1][2]. The older/woodier growth towards the middle, and, by extension, the anchor to the substrate where the potentially troublesome plant matter might still be attached, shouldn’t be eaten as it has a higher likelihood of causing gastric upset [1.2].

    References
    1. “Foraging and Cooking Chicken of the Woods Mushrooms”. Paul Stamets. YouTube. Published: 2020-09-06 (Accessed: 2024-08-19T00:38Z). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K8HuTHTyP8
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          this mushroom is — it tastes like chicken […] especially on the first two inches of the margin.

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          [Chicken of the woods] sours with bacteria very quickly. And so I caution you not to eat the interiors or where it’s discolored.

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        here are signs of bacteria growing so this can cause GI upset

    2. “Chicken Of The Woods: A Guide To Sulphur Shelf Mushrooms in British Columbia”. Vancouver Island Mushrooms. Published: 2024-03-25T09:54:59 (Accessed: 2024-08-19T00:47Z). https://www.westcoastforager.com/wild-edible-mushrooms/chicken-of-the-woods.
      • only the most tender parts of the mushroom near the margin should be eaten.

      • Starting at their base, chicken of the woods mushrooms become pale and the texture becomes more like cork as they get older.


  • Just to supplement that with another source that I found during my research:

    • David Arora. chickenofthewoods. “Conifer Chicken of the Woods… is it really inedible?”. mycology. Reddit. Published: 2022-10-08T02:10:01Z. (Accessed: 2024-08-18T00:56Z). https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/xz5myq/comment/irl3agr/.

      There’s no evidence that substrate directly affects edibility but some kinds of chicken of woods favor conifers and others hardwoods. Warnings to avoid those on conifers originate in northeastern North America where those on hardwoods such as oaks have a better track record than the one on conifers. This does not apply to the west coast. Here is what I wrote earlier: Three things definitely matter: 1. Species. 2. Cooking. 3. Individual Sensitivity.

      Species. We used to call them all Laetiporus sulphureus but recent research has shown five genetic clades within the genus Laetiporus in North America, and genes are the major determinant of toxicity of a mushroom. Two of the clades appear to produce a much higher incidence of GI poisonings. One of those clades grows on western conifers and on northeastern conifers. The second clade grows on hardwoods in the West and along the Gulf Coast. The other three clades grow on hardwoods in eastern North America and are not as likely to cause problems. In other words, all of our western chicken of the woods belong to the two problematic clades.

      Cooking. Long and thorough cooking will reduce the chances of GI upset but not eliminate the possibility entirely (see #3). Ken Litchfield in SF did some experiments with small groups of people and found that the “puke factor” was eliminated by boiling the mushrooms first for 15 minutes, and that as he reduced the boil time nausea was more likely to occur.

      Individual Sensitivity. There are many cases where groups of people dined on chicken of the woods and some but not all of them got sick. So obviously individual sensitivity plays a role, and it can work both ways. Some people can get away with cooking them very little, for instance, a five minute sauté (a woman from Alaska recommended that recently on this forum), but I wouldn’t do that for dinner guests. In the Litchfield experiment cited above, no one was made ill by the ones boiled for 15 minutes, but it was a small group of people so not necessarily representative of the general population. I do know cases of people who boiled them for a long time and still got sick, so for those few people it is flat-out poisonous. But prolonged cooking definitely makes it palatable for more people.


  • make sure you aren’t harvesting them off of pacific yew, cause then it can absorb the toxins from that.

    Is that due to some mechanism unique to a pacific yew? From what I’ve read, at least when talking about possible toxicity when found growing on a conifer, it’s mostly a myth, or at least misinformed [1].

    References
    1. chickenofthewoods. “Conifer Chicken of the Woods… is it really inedible?”. mycology. Reddit. Published: 2022-10-08T02:10:01Z. (Accessed: 2024-08-18T00:56Z). https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/xz5myq/comment/irl3agr/.

      There’s no evidence that substrate directly affects edibility but some kinds of chicken of woods favor conifers and others hardwoods. Warnings to avoid those on conifers originate in northeastern North America where those on hardwoods such as oaks have a better track record than the one on conifers. This does not apply to the west coast. Here is what I wrote earlier: Three things definitely matter: 1. Species. 2. Cooking. 3. Individual Sensitivity.

      Species. We used to call them all Laetiporus sulphureus but recent research has shown five genetic clades within the genus Laetiporus in North America, and genes are the major determinant of toxicity of a mushroom. Two of the clades appear to produce a much higher incidence of GI poisonings. One of those clades grows on western conifers and on northeastern conifers. The second clade grows on hardwoods in the West and along the Gulf Coast. The other three clades grow on hardwoods in eastern North America and are not as likely to cause problems. In other words, all of our western chicken of the woods belong to the two problematic clades.

      Cooking. Long and thorough cooking will reduce the chances of GI upset but not eliminate the possibility entirely (see #3). Ken Litchfield in SF did some experiments with small groups of people and found that the “puke factor” was eliminated by boiling the mushrooms first for 15 minutes, and that as he reduced the boil time nausea was more likely to occur.

      Individual Sensitivity. There are many cases where groups of people dined on chicken of the woods and some but not all of them got sick. So obviously individual sensitivity plays a role, and it can work both ways. Some people can get away with cooking them very little, for instance, a five minute sauté (a woman from Alaska recommended that recently on this forum), but I wouldn’t do that for dinner guests. In the Litchfield experiment cited above, no one was made ill by the ones boiled for 15 minutes, but it was a small group of people so not necessarily representative of the general population. I do know cases of people who boiled them for a long time and still got sick, so for those few people it is flat-out poisonous. But prolonged cooking definitely makes it palatable for more people.


  • Definitely looks like conifer bark of some sort.

    It’s a hemlock stump.


    What is it about conifers that makes the mushrooms not edible?

    See the following source for some extra info:

    • David Arora. chickenofthewoods. “Conifer Chicken of the Woods… is it really inedible?”. mycology. Reddit. Published: 2022-10-08T02:10:01Z. (Accessed: 2024-08-18T00:56Z). https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/xz5myq/comment/irl3agr/.

      There’s no evidence that substrate directly affects edibility but some kinds of chicken of woods favor conifers and others hardwoods. Warnings to avoid those on conifers originate in northeastern North America where those on hardwoods such as oaks have a better track record than the one on conifers. This does not apply to the west coast. Here is what I wrote earlier: Three things definitely matter: 1. Species. 2. Cooking. 3. Individual Sensitivity.

      Species. We used to call them all Laetiporus sulphureus but recent research has shown five genetic clades within the genus Laetiporus in North America, and genes are the major determinant of toxicity of a mushroom. Two of the clades appear to produce a much higher incidence of GI poisonings. One of those clades grows on western conifers and on northeastern conifers. The second clade grows on hardwoods in the West and along the Gulf Coast. The other three clades grow on hardwoods in eastern North America and are not as likely to cause problems. In other words, all of our western chicken of the woods belong to the two problematic clades.

      Cooking. Long and thorough cooking will reduce the chances of GI upset but not eliminate the possibility entirely (see #3). Ken Litchfield in SF did some experiments with small groups of people and found that the “puke factor” was eliminated by boiling the mushrooms first for 15 minutes, and that as he reduced the boil time nausea was more likely to occur.

      Individual Sensitivity. There are many cases where groups of people dined on chicken of the woods and some but not all of them got sick. So obviously individual sensitivity plays a role, and it can work both ways. Some people can get away with cooking them very little, for instance, a five minute sauté (a woman from Alaska recommended that recently on this forum), but I wouldn’t do that for dinner guests. In the Litchfield experiment cited above, no one was made ill by the ones boiled for 15 minutes, but it was a small group of people so not necessarily representative of the general population. I do know cases of people who boiled them for a long time and still got sick, so for those few people it is flat-out poisonous. But prolonged cooking definitely makes it palatable for more people.


  • Just be aware that some people are sensitive to it and might react negatively to it. That might also be a myth, who knows.

    Also, look at the tree it’s growing at. There are some species that can make COTW toxic, or at least inedible, making it bitter.

    From what I’ve read, it seems that some people are more sensitive to certain species of laetoporus. Regarding the substrate affecting the mushroom, this appears to be a common myth [1].

    References
    1. David Arora. chickenofthewoods. “Conifer Chicken of the Woods… is it really inedible?”. mycology. Reddit. Published: 2022-10-08T02:10:01Z. (Accessed: 2024-08-18T00:56Z). https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/xz5myq/comment/irl3agr/.

      There’s no evidence that substrate directly affects edibility but some kinds of chicken of woods favor conifers and others hardwoods. Warnings to avoid those on conifers originate in northeastern North America where those on hardwoods such as oaks have a better track record than the one on conifers. This does not apply to the west coast. Here is what I wrote earlier: Three things definitely matter: 1. Species. 2. Cooking. 3. Individual Sensitivity.

      Species. We used to call them all Laetiporus sulphureus but recent research has shown five genetic clades within the genus Laetiporus in North America, and genes are the major determinant of toxicity of a mushroom. Two of the clades appear to produce a much higher incidence of GI poisonings. One of those clades grows on western conifers and on northeastern conifers. The second clade grows on hardwoods in the West and along the Gulf Coast. The other three clades grow on hardwoods in eastern North America and are not as likely to cause problems. In other words, all of our western chicken of the woods belong to the two problematic clades.

      Cooking. Long and thorough cooking will reduce the chances of GI upset but not eliminate the possibility entirely (see #3). Ken Litchfield in SF did some experiments with small groups of people and found that the “puke factor” was eliminated by boiling the mushrooms first for 15 minutes, and that as he reduced the boil time nausea was more likely to occur.

      Individual Sensitivity. There are many cases where groups of people dined on chicken of the woods and some but not all of them got sick. So obviously individual sensitivity plays a role, and it can work both ways. Some people can get away with cooking them very little, for instance, a five minute sauté (a woman from Alaska recommended that recently on this forum), but I wouldn’t do that for dinner guests. In the Litchfield experiment cited above, no one was made ill by the ones boiled for 15 minutes, but it was a small group of people so not necessarily representative of the general population. I do know cases of people who boiled them for a long time and still got sick, so for those few people it is flat-out poisonous. But prolonged cooking definitely makes it palatable for more people.


  • Also be aware that mushrooms can become toxic based on the substrate they grow on. Some mushrooms cannot be eaten if they grow on certain types of trees.

    From what I’ve seen, this seems to be a common myth [1].

    References
    1. David Arora. chickenofthewoods. “Conifer Chicken of the Woods… is it really inedible?”. mycology. Reddit. Published: 2022-10-08T02:10:01Z. (Accessed: 2024-08-18T00:56Z). https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/xz5myq/comment/irl3agr/.

      There’s no evidence that substrate directly affects edibility but some kinds of chicken of woods favor conifers and others hardwoods. Warnings to avoid those on conifers originate in northeastern North America where those on hardwoods such as oaks have a better track record than the one on conifers. This does not apply to the west coast. Here is what I wrote earlier: Three things definitely matter: 1. Species. 2. Cooking. 3. Individual Sensitivity.

      Species. We used to call them all Laetiporus sulphureus but recent research has shown five genetic clades within the genus Laetiporus in North America, and genes are the major determinant of toxicity of a mushroom. Two of the clades appear to produce a much higher incidence of GI poisonings. One of those clades grows on western conifers and on northeastern conifers. The second clade grows on hardwoods in the West and along the Gulf Coast. The other three clades grow on hardwoods in eastern North America and are not as likely to cause problems. In other words, all of our western chicken of the woods belong to the two problematic clades.

      Cooking. Long and thorough cooking will reduce the chances of GI upset but not eliminate the possibility entirely (see #3). Ken Litchfield in SF did some experiments with small groups of people and found that the “puke factor” was eliminated by boiling the mushrooms first for 15 minutes, and that as he reduced the boil time nausea was more likely to occur.

      Individual Sensitivity. There are many cases where groups of people dined on chicken of the woods and some but not all of them got sick. So obviously individual sensitivity plays a role, and it can work both ways. Some people can get away with cooking them very little, for instance, a five minute sauté (a woman from Alaska recommended that recently on this forum), but I wouldn’t do that for dinner guests. In the Litchfield experiment cited above, no one was made ill by the ones boiled for 15 minutes, but it was a small group of people so not necessarily representative of the general population. I do know cases of people who boiled them for a long time and still got sick, so for those few people it is flat-out poisonous. But prolonged cooking definitely makes it palatable for more people.