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  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyz•flourideEnglish
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    26 days ago

    So let me gets this straight. You do not refute anything I have said.

    You are right, this is over.

    I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the fluoride that is added to municipal systems comes from the smoke stack scrubbers of fertilizer plants.

    You had no fucking clue about this because you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about about. Did you actually study this at the university level? Hell the fuck no! Have you talked with actual water operators who explained the fluoridation process? No fucking way! But you are going to lecture me. The fucking audacity of your shit is truly amazing.

    I also provided a sourced peer reviewed article that explained that adding fluoride to water when there is the presence of toothpaste and dental care is not effective.

    There is a mountain of evidence comparing dental health in communities that use of fluoride artificially added and those who do not. Guess what, none of it supports adding fluoride. Why? Because it does not work when you already have basic dental care. There is no statistical difference.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6309358/

    Please read carefully because it supports everything I have said. Fluoride is effective topically but there is no benefit in ingesting it.

    The real conspiracy theory is somehow drinking fluoride helps teeth pre-eruption. This is pure fantasy and what people who support adding fluoride to water believe.

    Your elaborate straw man is that I am saying fluoride is dangerous. Instead I said it is effective topically but not when ingested. As in, there is no beneficial effect of swallowing it.

    I provided an article you chose to dismiss because the guy who wrote it has a PHD in social sciences and therefore is full of shit. I won’t even go into how fucked up that is.

    Because yes a research scientists is going to know about public policy!? I mean you are literally so stupid about this it isn’t funny.

    I get you pretend to be smart but really have zero critical thinking skills.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyz•flourideEnglish
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    26 days ago

    Did you not read where the fluoride comes from? The smokestack scrubbers have heavy metals and other contaminates. There is no processing to purify it so it is contaminated.

    Perhaps you could argue there is not enough contaminates to cause a problem, but that does not change the fact you are dumping pollutants into the water supply under the guise of public health.

    Even if they dumped pharmeucutical grade fluoride into the water it would likely not be effective unless the population has no access to tooth paste or dental care. Not to mention people with kidney problems should not have any fluoride at all.

    The implications of treating people with a medication without their approval is also problematic. Many nations throughout Europe do not use fluoride in their water supply. Their tooth decay is not higher because of it.

    So like I was saying, this is not a conspiracy. It is proven fact. It is something that should be sunsetted and fertilizer plants should start treating their waste instead of dumping it in our water supply.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyz•flourideEnglish
    13·
    28 days ago

    Fluoride is safe topically and ineffective when introduced to our water supply. It is not some giant conspiracy, just a practice that is no longer necessary and unsafe because the industrial waste fluoride that is used is contaminated. Please save me the appeal to authority nonsense.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyz•flourideEnglish
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    29 days ago

    https://www.cochrane.org/news/water-fluoridation-less-effective-now-past

    The latest studies indicate fluoride in the drinking supply has little effect compared compared to fluoride toothpaste. So you once it is available the need for adding fluoride to water goes away. This has been supported by numerous studies comparing countries that do not add fluoride to their water.

    I studied this in a 400 level water course at UNI. I got to visit wastewater and water plants and speak with operators. I was surprised to learn the fluoride was not naturally occuring in the water supply as it is advertised on the EPA website.

    Then I found an article about a small town in Canada that ran out of fluoride because of a downturn in fertilizer manufacturing. I thought to myself what does fertilizer manufacturing have to do with fluoride.

    That is when I discovered the truth that a toxic by-product of fertilizer manufacturing is sold to municipalities to be disposed of in our water supply. It is not pharmeucutical fluoride because that would cost too much. Oh and it is contaminated with nasty stuff like heavy metals.

    I then did a bunch of research comparing rates of tooth decay in different areas of the world. It really did not appear to make a difference but actual dental care and fluoride toothpaste did.

    My presentation was about a hour and a half where I presented all my research. I got an A on it and everyone was very impressed with what I discovered.

    But sure tell me about my own journey when you literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about about.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyz•flourideEnglish
    112·
    29 days ago

    I said fluoride works topically. Do you deny this? Please provide evidence to the contrary.

    I said there is no way for the body to return fluoride where it is needed. Swallowing fluoride is pointless and unnecessary at best. At worst it is probably not a good idea to have fluoride in your water if you have kidney disease.

    Don’t bother actually, we already no you know literally nothing about this topic.