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  • First of all the moon didn’t abruptly explode, it cracked open like an egg and shattered, do rocks not crack? Do asteroids not fracture? Also if the moon had exploded there wouldn’t have been two years to prepare as an explosion would have sent impactors almost immediately. You’re hung up on the notion of it “exploding” while there are more realistic scenarios for exactly what happened in the book, this is part of why Stephenson left the “agent” as a mysterious event rather than making the effort to explain away the whys and hows of it happening.

    I disagree, there is plenty of science behind the book, so just saying “it’s just fiction” is literally ignoring all of the science that came into being while being influenced by works of fiction. Also my point is yes i agree we understand our own existences are fragile, but I’m taking a higher perspective, people generally don’t understand that a random occurrence from the sun or the void can end life on this planet completely, i mean look at how many people are failing at understanding climate change or all of the misunderstanding of many of the other known disaster scenarios. There’s people who still freaking believe that the Earth is flat and/or that an imaginary sky daddy manipulates daily events in their lives.

    Bro you are definitely harping on this, and the genre of Seveneves and that Stephenson often writes within is literally called Speculative fiction, when it comes to science fiction speculative fiction takes an improbable event, such as the “agent”, and then the authors use science or fictional technology to weave their story around the hows and the whys. Also if fiction has no basis in reality then tell me why the Pentagon literally has plans drawn up around alien invasion, zombies, and every other “doomsday” scenario you can imagine?

    Risk assessment - a systematic process of evaluating the potential risks that may be involved in a projected activity or undertaking.

    Risk assessment is what the Pentagon is doing when they game plan for ridiculous scenarios, risk assessment is figuring out what risk is probable while also considering the improbable, and science fiction writers tend to do similar while writing their stories, especially the ones like Stephenson or Asimov or Clarke, or Sagan, who have the education and do the diligent research behind their concepts, it’s also why guys like Asimov, Clarke, Stephenson, and others in Sci-fi tend to be invited to work with entities like NASA or private ventures like Blue Origin, dating all of the way back to the days when Asimov was alive and actively creating.

    Just remember a lot of science and engineering stems from creativity and imagination, fiction and reality go hand in hand at times.


  • There are a lot of other points of disaster addressed in Seveneves, yes the main catastrophe is the moon, but Stephenson goes into a lot about the fragility of man, as well as how the interaction between atmosphere, climate, and the edge of space, plus how everything is impacted by the world’s temperature being raised. Stephenson is not the type of writer who stops at “oh this is just what happens if the moon broke” he goes into many other lines of thought both probable and theoretical to fully paint the picture he’s trying to paint for us.

    Also who knows what will happen to the moon? We could fuck it up by trying to mine the moon like in the most modern movie version of Jules Verne’s Time Machine, or any of the various other possibilities that could happen from the randomness of our chaotic universe.

    Lastly you say “the moon exploded for no reason” but there was definitely a reason, Stephenson acknowledged that there was a reason in the form of Doc DuBoise’s thoughts on the “agent”, but the characters knew that the why and how didn’t matter anymore, because it was all about the “what do we do about it?” Because that was infinitely more important, especially when there was only two years until the hard rain scenario begins, survival was all that mattered, and so the agent and it’s possible causes ceased to matter.