will feature a 5G modem developed by Unisoc.

Interesting, these are difficult to make, Intel couldn’t make it work well enough, and had to abandon it.
I’d be careful buying this until tests show they are actually any good.

PS:
Intel tried to make a 5G modem without the Qualcomm patents, if Unisoc works with those, it will probably be OK.

This is mostly a Camera update to support 200 Mp.
IDK why they find that necessary for a chip for lower mid range phones?
That said Camera speed is really nice, my current phone is way way snappier taking pictures than the old one.

OK, I looked at the link you provided, and the Dimensity 9200+ is rated faster than the Snapdragon 7+ gen 3 with a score of:

1. box (Cyan) 199,1 vs 178,9 Mobile phone/tablet chip comprehensive performance ranking
2. box (blue) 146,8 vs 146,2 (even) Mobile phone/tablet chip CPU performance ranking
3. box (yellow) 321,8 vs 255 Mobile phone/tablet chip GPU performance ranking
4. box (red) 120,8 vs 114,5 Mobile phone/tablet chip GPU performance ranking

So the Dimensity 9200+ is similar in CPU speed, and the 8200 Ultra is similar in CPU speed to 9200+ (slightly faster), according to tests between Xiaomi 13T (Dimensity 8200 Ultra) and Xiaomi 13T Pro (Dimensity 9200+).

PS it’s a very cool page, so I made the effort to translate what the numbers actually were. Thanks for good info. ;)

Damned! I was sure it said 7+, I’ve been looking quite a lot for it, and even put the “Snapdrogon 7+ gen 3” in quotes searching for it.

Then I have to apologize, that I can’t even find a comparative speedtest!? And I couldn’t read the Chinese one you linked.

The Dimensity 8200 ultra was slightly faster and more power efficient than Dimensity 9200+ in tests of the Xiaomi 13T against the 13T Pro. (except graphics)
They are comparable to Snapdragon 8 gen 2, except the 8200 Ultra doesn’t have as strong GPU as the 9200+.
AFAIK Both are faster than Snapdragon 7+ gen 3.

The Dimensity 8300 Ultra is another league: https://beebom.com/snapdragon-7-gen-3-vs-dimensity-8300-benchmark/

OK, then you may prefer the Dimensity 8200 Ultra, this is still faster then Snapdragon 7+ gen3, and more power efficient than Dimensity 9200+, but uses Mali graphics instead of Immortalis, still good for gaming, but not as good as the 9200+, and it’s cheaper too, which could make room for better camera. ;)

Snapdragon 7+gen 3 makes it worth it IMO.

Yes that’s definitely an upgrade, but there are lots of better SOC now, they could also have used the Dimensity 9200+, which is comparable to Snapdragon 8 gen 2. And even the Dimensity 8200 Ultra would have been better.

No charger in the box is a scummy move

Yes and the price is allegedly the same, we expect improvements, like better SOC and Camera, but not at the cost of making other things worse.

I’m not impressed by IPS 65, No-charger, Snapdragon 7+ gen 3, and worse camera , if they want to make a “flagship killer”.
IMO the Alu-body ads nothing over a good synthetic back, that is lighter thinner more durable, protects the phone better and is cheaper.
The only thing worse than Alu is glass.

But that’s probably subjective, others may love their choices?

OK, but it’s tested “above average”
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_nord_3-review-2584p3.php

So for sure it isn’t exactly bad.

The Nord 3 did very well with the Dimensity 9000, and it had better camera.
A Dimensity 9200+ would have been better, that’s competitive to Snapdragon 8 gen 2.
So unless the Nord 4 is cheaper than Nord 3, I’m not impressed with how they balanced it.

how many usb cables do we need?

It’s always nice to have a proper cable rated for the speed and charging capability IMO, apart from that cables break, and they cost next to nothing to include.

Chargers are also sometimes problematic, if they aren’t original, they often revert to a much lower charging rate.
Something that apparently can only be solved, if the laws mandate it. For which we depend on EU.

I watched the video. And I’m surprised they didn’t mention whether the screen is still with Dragon Trail glass.
All in all, I must say I’m not impressed with the decisions for Nord 4, compared to Nord 3.

At least they got rid of the stupid glass back, although I would have preferred plastic back, and the money spend on the alu-body, was spend on better camera instead.
But congratulations on getting rid of the almost all dominating glass black.

WTF! That shit shouldn’t be legal.

Absolutely, but I think they feel they have to, to get good reviews.

Nice to finally see a review stating what I’ve been thinking ever since the Samsung Galaxy 2 was scorned 13 years ago by reviewers for having a plastic back, and not having the premium feel of the much more fragile iPhone.
Ever since it’s like a conspiracy of reviewers hailing the premium feel of metal unibodies or glass backs, despite the clearly lower quality of those materials, while dissing superior plastic bodies that weigh less, has way better shock absorption, is less bulky, and is less slippery and therefore less prone to drop out of pockets or bags.
The main reason it feels more “premium” is the extra weight, which is clearly detrimental to usability.

It’s like cheap stuff like cheap loudspeakers, where they have iron bars in them to ad weight, to make the speaker “feel” better. Where a speaker with a stronger (magnet) may actually be better.

But with phones it is 100% people fooling themselves, if they think heavier is better, and fragile glass is somehow better than sturdy quality synthetics.

So your idea of premium is fragile and expensive?
Plastic has superior usability in every way, weight, bulk, durability, shock absorption, less slippery than glass, meaning it doesn’t drop out of pockets handbags or even hands as easily.
So what part about a high end plastic is that isn’t premium in this situation?

Metal unibody degrades usability by shielding magnetic/RF signals. That degrades GPS NFC Bleutooth, wireless charging and probably also compass functionality.

So as I see it, metal bodies are probably not a reasonable option.

I understand what you mean, but I disagree, there are places where it isn’t necessary, needless use of plastic is a problem. But for the back of a phone, it can avoid buying an even bulkier plastic cover, it can extend the lifetime of the phone, in both cases it reduces waste.

Ha the exact same thing happened to me. Most expensive phone I ever bought, and it broke first time it was “dropped” slipping out of my pants while I was sitting down. it was such a tiny drop, only half of dropping from a dining table, and probably a third if I was standing with it in my hand.

The effect of the drop being exponential to the height, the about 35-40cm is really a minuscule drop for an everyday tool. Yet it was enough to break the backside glass, which doesn’t even have a purpose, beyond moronic reviewers claiming it FEELS premium.

Well IMO it’s way inferior to high end plastics, that have way better durability, weigh less, is less bulky, and is less slippery. There is simply no comparison, it’s infuriating that Samsung made the Galaxy originally with plastic back, but changed it because ALL reviewers claimed it didn’t feel premium. Completely disregarding it won ALL durability tests against iPhone by far, it wasn’t even a competition.

Fuck idiotic reviewers that scold a feature that is actually hugely beneficial!!! Fuck the Apple way is always better mindset, even when it clearly isn’t.

A tool can also be premium, and there is definitely a difference between an average phone and a premium phone.
The problem is all the nonsense about the premium FEEL, it’s not a feature when it degrades durability, or requires a cover that removes that premium feel anyway. Glass covers are also more slippery, making it more likely to drop out of a pocket or hand bag or even your hands.
Glass is detrimental in every way for usability, just the extra weight of it, makes drops more likely to cause damage. All the reviewers that push “The Premium Feel” without consideration to the downsides, like being slippery, adding weight, being more fragile and making the phone slightly more bulky, should be banned from making reviews.