although this is unlikely to substantially and directly impact us and is a more immediate concern for Mastodon and similar fediverse software, we’ve signed the Anti-Meta Fedi Pact as a matter of principle. that pact pledges the following:

i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity

the maintainer of the site is currently a little busy and seems to manually add signatures so we may not appear on there for several days but here’s a quick receipt that we did indeed sign it.

  • Satiric_Weasel@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I guess I’m the odd one out when I say I fully support this decision. I do not trust Meta, I Do not trust their intentions, and they have given me no reason to trust them.

    Thanks Beehaw.

  • dcormier@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I’m disappointed.

    “The fediverse is open and interoperable!”

    “No, not them.”

    • ikantolol@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      there are instances in the past where big players acquire the small ones and while at first they seem to be cooperative, it ultimately destroys the small players, one such case is XMPP the open chat protocols long before we have Matrix, killed by Google

      https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

      I guess this is a cautionary action, better to grow slower rather than be killed by Meta.

    • TehPers@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Regardless of how untrustworthy Meta as a company is, it also tends to hold the kinds of “mainstream” social media platforms that I have actively been avoiding for many reasons, including their communities. Beehaw has already defederated from other instances for having open sign-up and a disproportionately large number of users on them who needed moderation actions taken, and I can see a Meta-run instance posing the same kinds of problems.

      Plus, like others said, it’s not impossible to federate later if it ends up being an overreaction. It’s just that Meta and its userbase already exist, so it’s possible to make pre-emptive judgement with that knowledge and correct the judgement later, potentially avoiding a flood of unwanted content.

    • Lionir [he/him]@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Well, we’ve defederated with other people in the past (and will continue to do so in the future most likely). Federated systems are not an all or nothing situation. IMO that’s the biggest draw and improvement over a distributed system for social media.

          • debounced@kbin.run
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            1 year ago

            And just so happens to be the same pesky thing people refuse to read, color me surprised. 🙄

        • alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgOPMEnglish
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          1 year ago

          it’s literally Facebook. i think we’ve heard and seen more than enough to from Mark Zuckerberg and the platform which actively continues to be one of the worst vectors of online harm, misinformation, and advocacy for social and political violence (among many, many other ills). particularly with respect to our instance: their project can get fucked as far as i’m concerned.

        • fiah@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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          1 year ago

          before knowing any details?

          before? facebook is almost 20 years old, they’ve had plenty of time to show us who they are and they have. If you have any doubt about their moral fiber then I suggest you pull your head out of your ass and enter the fucking 2020s

    • Retronautickz@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Do you really think Meta wants to be “one of us”, that they plan to be on equal ground as the rest of the already existing instances managed by individuals and not by corporations? Are you that naive?

    • fiah@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      1 year ago

      it’s the paradox of tolerance. We (fediverse) cannot be tolerant of the intolerant (meta in this case), lest we be destroyed by them. And do not for one second ascribe any benevolent properties to meta, they are evil through and through and have been pretty much since inception. Tolerating their presence would be akin to tolerating nazis, the second that happens I’m fucking out of here