I think this is fundamentally true (although it has issues when it scales down to insects and below that requires an arbitrary line to be drawn) but I’m not convinced that being absolute about it is useful in harm reduction.
It’s objectively better that someone looks to buy meat from a farm that cares about the welfare of its animals than one that maximizes profit at the cost of the wellbeing and happiness of the animal.
Naturally it’s better still if they reduce or stop their meat consumption, but making it black-and-white can potentially result in a worse outcome by setting the bar higher than the consumer is willing to jump.
The one that has a life out in the field and then just dies one day without any stress. The one that is in a factory farm never sees the light is stressed their whole life. Guess what life is a bitch and unfair everything dies.
I genuinely can’t understand the disconnect you people have between the value of one life lived versus another only to be OK with that life being ended for the indulgence of your average McDonald’s customer.
I genuinely can’t understand the disconnect you people have between a plot of ecologically diverse forest life and a sterile field of corn just for the indulgence of a bag of Doritos.
See, it’s not hard to make disingenuous leaps. If you’re going to tell me about sustainable local farming don’t bother, I’ll dismiss it like local animal farming vs. factory slaughter.
I think this is fundamentally true (although it has issues when it scales down to insects and below that requires an arbitrary line to be drawn) but I’m not convinced that being absolute about it is useful in harm reduction.
It’s objectively better that someone looks to buy meat from a farm that cares about the welfare of its animals than one that maximizes profit at the cost of the wellbeing and happiness of the animal.
Naturally it’s better still if they reduce or stop their meat consumption, but making it black-and-white can potentially result in a worse outcome by setting the bar higher than the consumer is willing to jump.
Which killing of a cow is objectively better?
This is not a good-faith response. I’m not engaging further.
Yeah I’d bow out too if I were wrong.
Quick and fast
So the method is what’s important not the result? Just say you don’t value animal lives.
It’s a lot better than dying painfully and slow
Yes if an animal had to die then the less suffering way is better, but they don’t have to die.
everything dies
Not everything is killed though.
what I said was true. what you said was wrong. don’t change the subject.
The one that has a life out in the field and then just dies one day without any stress. The one that is in a factory farm never sees the light is stressed their whole life. Guess what life is a bitch and unfair everything dies.
I genuinely can’t understand the disconnect you people have between the value of one life lived versus another only to be OK with that life being ended for the indulgence of your average McDonald’s customer.
Meat is not a dietary requirement. Full stop.
See, it’s not hard to make disingenuous leaps. If you’re going to tell me about sustainable local farming don’t bother, I’ll dismiss it like local animal farming vs. factory slaughter.