It’s disappointing that even here on the fediverse people are cheering for the franchise of someone who’s sole motivation these days seems to be hating trans people.
Because they keep making terfs richer. Don’t know why that seems such a hard concept to understand. Just admit that you don’t give a shit about trans people and move on.
A single terf who is already as wealthy as a person can be so any additional wealth doesn’t matter. Being a toxic shithead to people for being a fan of something is not going to help trans people, nor is it going to make JK Rowling lose all her money.
On the topic of JK Rowling. Has she been really silent the past months or did I just miss the times she has been posting hate like her life depended on it?
Maybe she got rid of the mold and her brain is in healing.
If you are a fan of HP your choices are few and far between. If you are a fan of electric cars there are tons of better options that you can choose from. Adding on to that, the level of investment in both are orders of magnitude apart. What’s more, Tesla as a company has a reputation of having lots of issues of racism and misogyny in the workplace. I think the two are different enough that one can buy the blame and boycott Tesla without any hypocrisy.
I don’t because they’re not really comparable. Not in their intended effect nor their feasibility.
There are many other electrics cars, many of them better and/or cheaper and entirely interchangable. Boycotting Tesla just means getting a direct substitute instead. There aren’t any substitutes for HP games because the IP itself is the whole point.
Another point where they’re not comparable: Tesla isn’t the problem here, Elon is and he needs to go. And he can be gotten rid of, which is the entire point of the boycot.
Meanwhile, there is no mechanism legal or otherwise to remove Rowling from the equation. She owns the IP and no amount of boycots will change that. The only thing boycotting HP products achieves is making the companies involved fail and preventing any further HP products from being developed.
So what does that achieve?
Finally: we are talking about a woman saying mean things about trans people on the Internet versus a man actively dragging the USA into fascism as if these are equal problems requiring equal responses. As much as I empathise with trans people in that this issue can be much more real for them than it is for me, I still don’t think they’re anywhere near the same level of urgency. I have yet to see Rowling have any kind of meaningful effect, while Elon is currently rampaging through every institution he can reach.
So: given that boycotting Tesla is both easy, effective and urgent, while boycotting HP is a personal sacrifice for no real effect, surely you see the difference?
It isn’t for “no real effect”. Harry Potter is a merchandise empire and it’s important to see how that empire is being utilized. Open fan support of Harry Potter is often used as a direct open signal of anti-trans support and Terf ideology. Here in Vancouver where we have a larger than average population of trans and non-binary folk and more open accommodation to the community a billboard was put up saying “I❤️ JK Rowling” downtown because it’s a more nebulous dogwhistle that wouldn’t immediately ping Canada’s hate speech laws so that the whole “Freedom of Speech” ploy could be envoked.
Whenever a new HP franchise item comes out there’s a wave of people who flood online and sometimes in person trans spaces who use the barest veneer of support of the franchise as a means to say some truely awful things about trans people. Some don’t even bother mentioning the franchise they just participate in the storming because they have the opportunity. Those spaces are often filled with vulnerable people seeking support and solidarity and these rushes can leave isolated trans people without community for weeks.
Here in Van someone wearing HP merch in any queer space is throwing up a flag that says “I am potentially an unsafe person.”
You don’t have to give up your books. All we ask is that people do not white knight the author or the publication and merchandising empire which keeps making her influence into an active memetic weapon.
Hmm on the one hand is kicking trans people down the stairs and on the other hand is having enough self discipline to not consume a single franchise. Yeah you are right, this is a tough choice!
lmao, personal sacrifice my ass
Literally hundreds of games, movies and books out there not made by a monster leading the anti trans movement but you’re still unwilling to give up on one video game to show support for trans people. They are absolutely right about you, nothing hyperbolic about what they said.
Hyperbole is when person asks you to not play one single video game to show support for trans people when you can easily play anything else instead. How dare they, so mean. Exactly like the fascists who support MAGA 🙄
Tesla has a ceo that is arguably evil, his companies flaunt labour laws and he is actively trying to make the world a worse place through multiple means.
The HP writer makes mean tweets and complains women use her bathroom.
Both are bad people, but not even remotely at the same level.
I think it’s really interesting that the christians used to have a huge hate boner for Harry Potter when I was growing up but now it’s shifted to the left sphere. They all kinda flip flopped
It’s disappointing that even here on the fediverse people are cheering for the franchise of someone who’s sole motivation these days seems to be hating trans people.
Because there are people who can still love a franchise and not the person who created it?
Wow, blew your mind.
Because they keep making terfs richer. Don’t know why that seems such a hard concept to understand. Just admit that you don’t give a shit about trans people and move on.
A single terf who is already as wealthy as a person can be so any additional wealth doesn’t matter. Being a toxic shithead to people for being a fan of something is not going to help trans people, nor is it going to make JK Rowling lose all her money.
On the topic of JK Rowling. Has she been really silent the past months or did I just miss the times she has been posting hate like her life depended on it?
Maybe she got rid of the mold and her brain is in healing.
I hope her pile of money fell on her and crushed her to death
There’s about a thousand and one other people involved with the franchise after 8 movies, 3 spinoff movies, a play and a dozen or so videogames.
Rowling is pretty much irrelevant to the fandom and people aren’t into the HP stuff because of her.
She is directly benefitting from the sales and people buying Harry Potter stuff know that.
Yeah so are about a thousand other people who worked on the franchise/product in question and may be very positive influences on the world.
Trying to deny a literal billionaire money is symbolic at best.
Do you feel the same about boycotting Tesla?
If you are a fan of HP your choices are few and far between. If you are a fan of electric cars there are tons of better options that you can choose from. Adding on to that, the level of investment in both are orders of magnitude apart. What’s more, Tesla as a company has a reputation of having lots of issues of racism and misogyny in the workplace. I think the two are different enough that one can buy the blame and boycott Tesla without any hypocrisy.
I don’t because they’re not really comparable. Not in their intended effect nor their feasibility.
There are many other electrics cars, many of them better and/or cheaper and entirely interchangable. Boycotting Tesla just means getting a direct substitute instead. There aren’t any substitutes for HP games because the IP itself is the whole point.
Another point where they’re not comparable: Tesla isn’t the problem here, Elon is and he needs to go. And he can be gotten rid of, which is the entire point of the boycot. Meanwhile, there is no mechanism legal or otherwise to remove Rowling from the equation. She owns the IP and no amount of boycots will change that. The only thing boycotting HP products achieves is making the companies involved fail and preventing any further HP products from being developed. So what does that achieve?
Finally: we are talking about a woman saying mean things about trans people on the Internet versus a man actively dragging the USA into fascism as if these are equal problems requiring equal responses. As much as I empathise with trans people in that this issue can be much more real for them than it is for me, I still don’t think they’re anywhere near the same level of urgency. I have yet to see Rowling have any kind of meaningful effect, while Elon is currently rampaging through every institution he can reach.
So: given that boycotting Tesla is both easy, effective and urgent, while boycotting HP is a personal sacrifice for no real effect, surely you see the difference?
It isn’t for “no real effect”. Harry Potter is a merchandise empire and it’s important to see how that empire is being utilized. Open fan support of Harry Potter is often used as a direct open signal of anti-trans support and Terf ideology. Here in Vancouver where we have a larger than average population of trans and non-binary folk and more open accommodation to the community a billboard was put up saying “I❤️ JK Rowling” downtown because it’s a more nebulous dogwhistle that wouldn’t immediately ping Canada’s hate speech laws so that the whole “Freedom of Speech” ploy could be envoked.
Whenever a new HP franchise item comes out there’s a wave of people who flood online and sometimes in person trans spaces who use the barest veneer of support of the franchise as a means to say some truely awful things about trans people. Some don’t even bother mentioning the franchise they just participate in the storming because they have the opportunity. Those spaces are often filled with vulnerable people seeking support and solidarity and these rushes can leave isolated trans people without community for weeks.
Here in Van someone wearing HP merch in any queer space is throwing up a flag that says “I am potentially an unsafe person.”
Article of the billboard.
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5722244
You don’t have to give up your books. All we ask is that people do not white knight the author or the publication and merchandising empire which keeps making her influence into an active memetic weapon.
Hmm on the one hand is kicking trans people down the stairs and on the other hand is having enough self discipline to not consume a single franchise. Yeah you are right, this is a tough choice! lmao, personal sacrifice my ass
Hyperbole and bad faith arguing is not compelling anyone to support your cause or your point of view
Literally hundreds of games, movies and books out there not made by a monster leading the anti trans movement but you’re still unwilling to give up on one video game to show support for trans people. They are absolutely right about you, nothing hyperbolic about what they said.
This level of hyperbole makes you sound like the MAGA crowd, dude
Hyperbole is when person asks you to not play one single video game to show support for trans people when you can easily play anything else instead. How dare they, so mean. Exactly like the fascists who support MAGA 🙄
Tesla has a ceo that is arguably evil, his companies flaunt labour laws and he is actively trying to make the world a worse place through multiple means.
The HP writer makes mean tweets and complains women use her bathroom.
Both are bad people, but not even remotely at the same level.
you are wrong . She is not just making mean tweets, she is doing very real damage to queer people and women irl.
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I think it’s really interesting that the christians used to have a huge hate boner for Harry Potter when I was growing up but now it’s shifted to the left sphere. They all kinda flip flopped
Extremists on both ends demand purity of thought
BOtH SiDeS
Mixed case, brilliant rebuttal!
Considering how many people didn’t vote for Kamala because they weren’t 100% happy with her stance on Palestine; yes, you dense motherfucker.
Both.
Fucking.
Sides.
Every time I see Harry Potter or J.K. Rowling’s name in the news I look for comments like these to restore a tiny bit of my sanity.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. Especially when you’ve only ever read one book.